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RE: A quick post to share some important information - @familyprotection

in #familyprotection4 years ago

Actually I did not open the first "google", it took several attempts to even find what I was looking for, that being the other side of the story plus a bonus article on how this case proved to be a prime example of parental alienation. I've never heard of that before and definitely was surprised to learn it can sometimes go way beyond telling children what to say to actually making them believe what you say actually happened to them. I watched a good chunk of both videos, I wouldn't if she had actually just accused the father but accusing everyone even associated with the father in regards to accusing them also of sexual abuse instead just an associate or two, that's within reach of probability but it was everyone associated with him plus his entire family....they call that being paranoid. You'd be surprised how far and long sometimes I dig for stuff and no matter the time spent on this last night I could not find one single sentence where this father spoke one bad word about her even after all was said and done. That's a rarity.

It's extremely sad to see what happens with women whose husbands abandon them. She felt jaded for sure and just wanted to go out and have fun like he'd been able to do unhindered with the responsibilities that come with children. I am sure there's more to this case that happened prior to her starting point, like there's a good probability he went after full custodial custody because he had them more than she did and was probably paying support to boot. To admit that though she'd have to admit her absence from her kids more than what she should have been. She'd also have to admit that may have attributed to her son crying and clinginess when she tried to drop them off. Really it's sad all away around but she rolled the diced without any limitations in place and she paid the price.

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I've read a few of the opposing articles and most of them were like carbon copies of each other. To me, this shows signs of a collective narrative disseminated by whoever dictates what gets reported. Many even stated that their narrative was dictated by the Judge's decision, a judge who was found guilty of misconduct. Mainstream reporters are extremely controlled when dealing with family court proceedings and when they push someone to the point where they speak out publicly it is often the case that the MSM is used to smear that person in order to protect the reputation of the establishment. On the subject of people speaking out, you have to understand how the family courts and Social services manipulate the secrecy of their profession. They leave parents terrified and feeling as if they have nobody to turn to. Local MPs won't help and any complaints about the Social workers have to be directed to the head of Social Services, and there is no chance they will ever admit they have got things wrong or covered things up. In the end, parents lose their children and then have nothing left to lose. The consequence of this is that they have to resort to turning to the "internet talk show circuit" for there to be any hope and sometimes just so when the child grows up he/she knows mum/dad actually never gave up. Neither of us knows 100% if Samantha Baldwin is telling the truth or not but because I've seen first-hand how corrupt the authorities can be I believe her story. I understand that it's an extreme story but things like this aren't unheard of. In fact, it is more often than not that an abuser will come from an abusive family.

I can find some balance in what you stated. I don't think she was abused as she stated he never abused her. Of course there's mental abuse but she doesn't seem to have been inclined to suggest that. It's not like my heart doesn't go out to her, believe me I was a single parent of two children myself without any kind of real support system in place, it can be rough. Often times men walk away without a care in this world, free to do whatever they want while you struggle to raise kids, this case doesn't seem to have gone to that extreme even as he was very supportive in having the children. Like I said I'd believed her if it wasn't for the fact she accused way to many people of sexually abusing the children, it's just to unrealistic to believe that every single person in the fathers life was a child sexual predator.

Although I disagree, I do get what you are saying and I appreciate you being here to have this exchange. This is an extraordinary situation and for that we have to admit that only those closest will ever know 100% what has happened. I'm also a single parent and was left to do the hard work when it first happened, so I can totally agree with you that situations like that aren't easy.
Going back to our discussion I would just like to raise one more point that has become apparent through my sister's unfortunate experience. What I noticed throughout our ordeal is that my niece's father was a friend of the family and when we first heard about the abuse all of us were caught in a state of disbelief. It just didn't make sense and denial was instinctive. We wasted valuable time wrestling with our emotions and in the end it cost us dearly. My sister reacted instantly while the rest of us hoped it wasn't true. Unfortunately, she turned to the authorities for justice and this has turned into a complete nightmare. Every department tasked with safeguarding my niece has lied, cheated and acted in their own interest. Even when we have proven them to be corrupt they have ignored us and carried on regardless. I'm appalled at how the system works, which is why I have sided with the mother in the post we initially spoke about. It should speak volumes that my advice to anyone in a similar situation would be to deal with it on their own and without the "help" of Police/Social workers(Unless they have irrefutable evidence, and even then I would think twice).

We are all shaped by our own experiences and I know this makes me bias in certain ways. I'm still glad we can have this type of discussion though, as it reminds me of my own biases and to question everything.

Likewise I've had my own experiences to. As a child I was in the foster care system, there were six of us when we were taken, it was justified with the circumstances involved. Though at times I had a hard time adjusting to foster care it was one of the better things that happened in my life. Without them the chances were greater I'd ended up a rotted out toothed prostitute on some street corner in life. For that one short year I was there I learned what being a good parent entailed. That part stayed with me as a positive outcome of that whole experience.

Glad your journey through the system worked out for the better, many don't, and that's why I support @familyprotection. I understand the care system is necessary and children are in need of help but in its current form it just creates too much harm. The UK's care system is rife with pedophiles and corrupt/useless social workers, which has been proven to be true in the IICSA we currently have going on.