An-archy literally means 'no rulers' - it does not merely mean 'no government'. As soon as anyone attempts to 'rule' someone against their will - they have broken the state of an-archy by creating them-self to be a ruler. All this is needed is for me to, for example, direct you to stand in a certain location and attempt to force you.. At that point, I am attempting to rule you.
Agree about your definition, and this is why anarchy is unsustainable.
An unstable state as I initially stated and elaborated about in my thread about it.
Hierarchy requires subordination - the receiving of commands against the will. This is neither balanced, nor sustainable.
For real?
Governments and gangs are not sustainable?
Which is why during the entire history barring a few tiny patches mankind was hierarchic?
And even other mammals and aves live in hierarchic structures?
Hierarchic societies are older than humanity.
Government is supported by force and violence at present - that is all that is holding together this 'sustainability'. Real sustainability is identified by real balance, whereby there is no (or minimal) dysfunction and there is a real peace. We currently have neither anything approaching a real peace, nor anything approaching a world without dysfunction.
Most of the dysfunction in human reality stems from actions of government.
Many people have thought that control solves problems, but what they have not had is the benefit of experience completely free from all control. When free from all control it becomes obvious that control itself has been causing much of the problems that other forms of control were then used to attempt to 'solve' the problems.
If you think genocides and wars are sustainable then think again. These are the fruits of most of the governments so far.
Violence will emerge whether you like it or not.
The question is how can it be answered and minimized.
It was rhetoric, but this entire exchange is about matters that are too obvious for most 17 years olds.
Governments are corrupt, not by definition, but currently.
Societies that will not be ruled by violence will succumb to societies that are ruled by violence and that impose their rule on peaceful societies.
This is how it always was and will always be.
You ignored my examples about history and animals.
Genocides and wars are game theoretic occurrences.
Inevitabilities.
A part of evolution.
Wars happen in nature too, they are not restricted to governments or even to humans.
No.
It stems from competition, and is not restricted only to humans, or to hierarchical societies or hierarchic species.