I lied about that part. I felt indifferent about your music and it was mostly just adding to the campaigning to reduce the rewards you're getting. The other accounts that downvoted just follow this account automatically. I'll remove those downvotes once there has been some peaceful resolution to the drama.
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I agree voting on day 6 is abusing the pool. But people tend to try and take advantage, thats normal and downvoting with no warning will scary away many good investors. Without the mass the system wont thrive.
I think its more scalable to deduct the intreset from the voting rewards by days with additional penalty. Some behaviors can also trigger a waring automatically - don't vote your own comments etc. If the bot finds a bad pattern.
But turning on the downvote punshiment in my opinion should be still manual. We are in a fragile phase and we want adoption and communication.
I thought people were allergic to bots spamming warnings. There's already a penalty in place for those voting late on curation but these hardly ever discourage anyone especially with larger stake to game the system. The issue was him doing it whether he may be intentionally doing so or just happen to like supporting the same crowd on day 6 old comments.
They can do that on fresh 1 or 2 day old comments than be suspiciously doing it on day 6 for what? Now it's not really right to assume intentions here, he might have meant well or he did try to game the system, who knows, what is sure is the voting behavior was done and these are the consequences.
Anyone is still welcome to counter those downvotes or reinforce the downvotes of course. I don't see him ever having a problem further unless he consistently does it even after all this. Aggravating the people that also downvote is also a bad idea. I mean, how hard is it just to not vote on day 6 and go for fresh comments instead?
Valid points
Anyway I see all my posts are still zero so somebody has me heavily downvoted. Who should I contact? Will it stop? Or am I am a list now? Anyway I’m livid because this really seems like somebody else did it for personal reasons. I’m one of the biggest supporters of total strangers on here. It just didn’t and doesn’t make sense. Anyway can u and me be friends? That’s positive on a shitty day like today.
Those are something I'm in no control. The ones you need to contact are the ones downvoting you and I can't say on their behalf if they want to pursue downvoting or you are their blacklist. @cwow2 has mentioned a discord link you can join to reach them. It's a hassle I know, but you can try as there ain't anything to lose. Probably better to join once you've cooled off a bit.
I can somehow empathize having a rough day and this scenario happening must be overwhelming. I don't mind being friends as long as you're willing to make amends and remove the downvotes thrown to some of the peeps that downvoted you, (don't remove the downvotes you put on me, those aren't something I can be bothered with).
I know its counterintuitive and you want those that wronged you have sanctions somehow but the faster way to reach some conflict resolution is just letting some stuff go. Whether you get any downvotes further or negative vibes from them isn't something I can control but I do encourage you to still try and be diplomatic and not aggravate the situation further. Again, no guarantee that it may or may not work, just saying stuff that would help it not make things worse.
LoL. This comment just sounds like do as I say or I wreck your experience until you do. Then I will be your master. Call them a friend as long as they do everything you think is right. My my how the whales have changed this space.
I'm a whale?
I wasnt being specific. I was just generalizing. I dont have the time or gumption to investigate every wallet.
Sure~
Btw I just looked. One freaken comment of mine was upvoted outta last couple hundo. It just of been by mistake. If I was the kind of person who would upvote a single word , don’t u think I’d do it more then once and on all the legit long comments?
I think it was more on the timing of your voting like on Day 6 and having too few on your circle you support that made it suspicious to begin with. While you may have no intention to game the system, the consequences are the same as those who do exploit the system. By changing the voting behavior to upvoting comments within idk, maybe within a day or two after they made would probably be more ok and also not your own or the same set of people, that would be even better. It's still up to you to take the advice or not and there's no guarantee the downvotes will stop. I'm just saying these are the stuff you did that caught some attention.
Shooting first and asking questions later is rather reckless, don't you think?
By the way, if you do not like voting on the sixth day then make a proposal to change the voting period. I think if the entire Community agrees with your idea concerning "appropriate" voting behavior it can written into the code. If not I can only ask who are you and this group that is imposing their will on everyone else.
Of course if I only voted on the sixth day, who the heck would care?????
Ohhhh my penny has destroyed the reward pools???
You remind me of Justin Sun! Who banished me from Steemit for silly memes. What next? I don't give a shit. Are you going to blacklist me to oblivion for thinking what you are doing is flat out WRONG.
If you have a problem, talk to an account first. Secondly, if you do not like the way voting is done, make a proposal to the entire Community. Go ahead see how well that is received.
I got nothing else for you.
I'll shoot first or talk first as much as I want, that's my initiative. I already read about the backstory before I gave my downvotes but thanks for assuming I didn't and shooting right away, that makes your extra seconds on typing worthwhile.
On your own comments? You can try and see who does then.
My hp is that intimidating enough? Must be a nightmare if I started typing in mandarin.
I'm fine with the voting system as is. The ability to do it or not and when you want to do it or not. He made his move I make mine.
Give me something else.
Type Mandarin all you want, make your moves, it will not change the fact that the Middle Kingdom has lost the Mandate of Heaven and only a fool can not see that.
Fair thee well.
As to your HP, this is a hobby for me, perhaps it is all you have?????
Caput Lupinum to ye!
If you hear the rain RUN!
Only understood the fair thee well part and lazy to Google the reference of the first lines. It's all hobby for me too, how else do you think I can enjoy speaking up what's on my mind?
Doge to ye too.
Holy $hit! What happened to the free world on Hive!? At this rate these draconian human opinionated ideals will endUP only driving people OFF the blockchain and back to the dysfunctional Social2.0's they were attempting to escape! Doesn't this mean that we are more dysfunctional ourselves? How many new people are going to putUP with (not to mention understand!) practices and thinking like this? No. This needs to STOP! And the sooner the better. Hive's marketability is at stake.
Aren't you already getting the benefits of the free world of Hive? You can upvote or downvote, agree or disagree, and free to say what you want and now I'm giving my own take on the matter. Let people have the freedom to do whatever they want on chain, vote or downvote however they please and make their say on it. I didn't mandate anyone to stop doing what they wanted to do if they prefer to upvote themselves or people on Day 6, I said that is one of the reasons they were getting downvote and the behavior is just tied to those gaming the system.
You want the freedom where people can express disagreement, then this is the freedom you're getting or were you envisioning a decentralized freedom where everyone just became everyone's yes man to protect muh rewards, muh freedom muh murica crap. Maybe you also want to take away my free speech for disagreeing too while you're at it? Make your own statement to disagree and take it up to the people you openly disagree, aka. the ones downvoting you're trying to stand up for.
Never said any of that. That’s what came out of your own mouth.
Stick to what the code allows... then people won’t be upset when you share your opinion because it’s in alignment with the code... not outside it’s parameters.
I’m not, in any way shape or form, suggesting that someone takes another’s voice away... I’m only saying that if your going to tell them what they can or can’t do with their own account... that’s, always going to come across as unfriendly. That’s what you did did you not? And not only that... you communicated that intent with downvotes AND words.
Freedom is great... until it is used to try and take away someone else’s freedom.
Being a Hive owner means that we all have a voice here... and we didn’t become owners to own a half functioning account now did we? And we certainly didn’t become owners so that someone else could tell us what we can and can’t do (outside of the agreed upon code) now did we?
That’s what we are really talking about here...
I’m just going to keep the topic on point.
Spare me sermon, you downvoted me first before telling me your point of view and how unfriendly I'm doing while taking high ground morally policing my conduct. I'm saying there are consequences and those are the consequences he received for doing just that, I suggested he not do that and not escalate it further but was I granted a discussion prior to the downvotes I received from your alts? nah, you're too good for that.
Just saying don't pretend your shit don't smell and be whole prim and proper. I'm not really pissed about the downvotes I received, it's part of the whole downvoting someone means you're asking for flak in return and that's natural. What I don't subscribe to is being lectured that I got downvoted because I'm unfriendly and be told what to do because I told someone else what to do, just who do you think you are trying to be that imposing some virtues on me preaching how downvotes shouldn't be thrown like that and people should discuss things yadayada. You never gave me that audience when you pressed the button bruh, don't, you just made the call to tag my comments unfriendly to your taste and then we had this long post discussion afterwards. Spare me the hypocrisy.
Didn't take their freedom, not capable nor interested in it. I just told them the situation from my perspective and it's up to them to make their move. Even encouraged them to try and reach the people and not further antagonize to make things worse. I was expecting they'd double down or just go find the best way for conflict resolution.
You are setting up a new friendly policy? how should the organization be labelled? Friendlywatchers? mean comments are to be downvoted and anyone who disagrees is unfriendly. Sorry I don't downvote your replies on me even If I disagree with what you're saying and to me, you're really being unfriendly right now. Your turn moral police.
You can receive it our not. It’s up to you. I my doesn’t matter to me.
You gave some pretty less than great reasons for downvoting this post... it shouldn’t surprise you then to receive the same in kind.
It doesn’t matter to me if you want to hear me out or not. No problem either way... I just wanted to give you a definitive reason why I decided to counter your downvotes and also give you some of your own medicine.
It’s not right that you would be rewarded for being unfriendly... and that’s how the cookie crumbles.
Social Capital swings both ways... and seeing what I saw today in your comments and realizing that this post had been downvotes for some very shitty reasons... I decided to step into the gap and actually do something about it.
I don’t think that this can be held against me... and I think that the owner of this post appreciates my efforts.
Well... that’s it for me.
I can no longer afford to give you my time and attention.
So long and good luck here on Hive.
@wil.metcalfe