What I mean by this is that he is targeting certain levels of rewards he deems too high. Which is an option this platform offers. The rewards are only earned after 7 days. Until then it is upon all stakeholders to judge the level of rewards.
From what I have seen, he doesn't target opinions he disagrees with. I could be wrong, ofc. I am not trying to defend his voting pattern. This was an attempt to answer a comment posted to me.
This issue has come up a few times and he usually gave his reasoning when asked in a comment below the downvoted post.
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Yes it may have nothing to do with difference of opinion, it just seems whenever I post on certain topics I get hit, he claims it is random but it seems systematic when multiple posts in a row are downvotes after spending hours to research and put out well sourced info that people are clearly appreciating (comments, reblogs, etc.) downvoting to regulate payout seems ridiculous, why not just upvote the stuff you want rather than punish good content for making ‘too much’. Seems pretty subjective, we’re not talking a picture of some titties or spam or plagiarism getting huge payouts being ‘adjusted’, but original work that users often spend very much time and energy on, art, research, etc.
I never was a fan of the downvote system though, and still don’t really understand how it benefits the platform, repetitive downvotes by smooth and similar use of downvotes by others is driving people away from the platform, but they don’t seem to care about it, their self voted posts keep making lots of money whether people come or go from the platform. I just don’t understand why downvote so much when you have power to reward so much content you support, it seems childish and the nature of a particular mindset that has infected many on this earth that is not uplifting to humanity or in the spirit of freedom to live and let live. So many don’t downvote at all or so rarely, and then a few act as reward pool police and constantly downvote anything deemed ‘too high’. Really a pathetic use of time in my opinion, looking for content to punish instead of to reward...
Thanks for the comment, it isn't just my rewards, its tons of users across the board, so hopefully they get this sorted out soon, as use of downvotes to systematically police rewards is driving people away from the platform. Power abuse in my opinion, but I guess the downvote function itself encourages such behavior.
So one powerful account deems on their own to take awards away from a user, I'm sorry but I just don't get how that helps this community grow, @smooth downvoting is the main reason why I do not support their proposals this is an abuse of power by an account that is community funded
Voting is not "taking rewards away". Most of those highly reward posts got the bulk of their rewards from large accounts as well. There is no difference. Rewards are not awarded until the end of the 7 day voting period, everything up to that point is just an estimate.
nice fancy talk but this doesnt explain why you randomly downvote content
Opinion about how rewards should be allocated. It's my stake and investment that is paying the rewards and I have a say in where they go, just as all other stakeholders do.
yeah but when you are a dev account that is as big as your account is it just looks like devs are shitting on other users because they can, im not saying you dont have a say, what your doing is a corrupting good proof of brain content for some strange price manipulation reason
Also not sure what you mean by an account that is community funded. My account is not funded by anyone other than me. The @hbdstabilizer account that is funded by DHF does not vote.
Yeah and that is the problem, you are a powerful dev account who is trying to stabilize hbd, powerful dev accounts should not be downvoting users content for the fuck of it, what is to stop like a Google from making a Hive account and just shit on any content they to not be politically correct, this is a slippery slope, oh so the community didnt help you or any of your projects you did that all on your own I got it
I'm not a 'dev account' at all. I'm just a user and investor. I didn't create Hive (or Steem) although I sometimes make suggestions to the devs, or make proposals to DHF, which stakeholders support because they find them benficial to Hive. You are free to do that as well.
your account is what is wrong with this platform just a big whale throwing his wieght around it reminds me of Justin Sun and im growing disgusted with this platform, your not a dev account yes the fuck you are
My stake is well under 1%. If you think that runs the system in some centralized way, you don't understand how these things work.
We're all (stakeholders) going to vote (up and down) on rewards and that's how its going to be. Anyone is free to participate whether they like how other stakeholders choose to allocate rewards or not.
You were involved in flag wars before and this has been an issue since then, I am just proposing a simple solution that will help to clarify downvoting and ease tension. Today when users are downvoted they are left wondering why this huge account just downvoted its content and typically there are four reasons for a downvote, why not have an automated comment or memo that notifies the user in a brief explanation why there was a reward disagreement and how that helps the community grow. When a downvote happens the user knows that their content was downvoted because of a rewards disagreement and not because this influential account hates you.
are you trying to dev a new hbd stabilizer sorta makes u a dev i didnt say hive dev
Okay, sure. Many devs supported by DHF still vote. I'm not using the funds/stake from DHF (which in the case of @hbdstabilizer are completely segregated) to vote, only my own.
tbh what your not doing out all the convos I seen about this, is explaining why you randomly downvote users PoB
Voting is fine, you're an account just like any other, you vote on whatever you want whenever you want, but it is where your downvoting that is so perplexing one of your favorite targets is a Community I belong to, DeepDives. If all the big accounts on this platform started to do what you do, sooner or later people will accuse big accounts of controlling rewards, the community votes on content and brings its value up, it seems as if your only intention is to quell growth, a downvote doesn't just impact the rewards it impacts who sees the post and can make the post less visible.
I just dont get why you go around downvoting content that you dont even dislike, what is the reasoning behind it and why should that user who did nothing wrong but research and write a post have through contented downvoted on a platform that is suppose to value our proof of brain
I can like content and still think it is overrewarded. Again, votes are up and down. If you think it is underrewarded, vote it up, if you think it is overrewarded, vote it down.
all you care about is who will hold hbd, you care about investors and other huge accounts its clear that huge accounts like you dont give a fuck about content creators we are just pawns on your chest board
Look content creators are part of the Hive community and that's fair and good, and Hive rewards content creators with large amounts of rewards, more than any other content blockchain project I'm aware of.
But they're also not the entirety of the project or the only thing that is important, other factors matter too. Without investors and development, the whole project will fail and content creators will get nothing. Increasing the value of Hive means more funds available for rewards, decreasing the value means less (or none).
People earn those rewards they aren't given to them, thats how PoB works, you give the impression like you are a king and content creators should bow to you, without content creators Hive would be like github just a buncha devs building and sharing code, content creators are what makes Hive a community. Downvoting content would go over better if your explanations for downvoting weren't so vague, forgive me for being a mere content creator and not understanding the ebbs and flows of this eco-system. Smooth, you have been around since the dawn of this blockchain and my recent comments may suggest otherwise, but I have a lot of respect for what you're doing. I was ignorant of the downvoting issue and I reacted with emotions instead of trying to understand it fully. I apologize for reacting that way. Downvoting has long been an issue of friction and I have a solution to this that is very simple. When an account is downvoting for a price disagreement in order to balance out rewards an explanation is given to the content creator automatically. Then the content creator isn't left sitting there angry because this big account just downvoted their content instead a brief explanation is given about how this helps the community to grow as a whole.
your coming off as the Federal Reserve
If we had a 1000mv vote limit in place, we wouldn't be having this problem.
Without downvoting rewards wouldn't make it outside the first 100 accounts.
They would just vote for themselves.
Much of the flagging discussions take place in this discord: https://discord.gg/yfd95Sy.
If you care to join the discussion you are free to do so.
I have already been talking with people on discord, and I think we have reached a solution that will ease the friction, this has been an issue for as long as I have been on this platform and to be honest, it gives off the feel, that as content creators we have very little say on this platform
Well, truthfully, the value we bring to the chain is secondary to creating it and not letting it get broken, imo.
If we had a 1000mv voting limit in place we wouldn't be having this discussion.
Eventually the inflation makes these largest accounts irrelevant, provided they can't maintain their percentage of the whole.
This was a big worry in 2016 and '17, and has driven off the greediest already.
I figured 5 years would show some improvement, and it has.
We are on the cusp of the math actually working the way it was designed.
If our whales can level the playing field a little more, of their own volition, this game will make a lot more sense to a lot more people, iyam.
A 1000mv voting limit could +/- 4x our vote values.
I reached out to someone, but I am not sure if they want to named and presented my idea to ease the tension between big accounts downvoting and content creators, so when a big account downvote's for a reward disagreement the user is notified that their content was downvoted to balance out rewards