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I don't really care which one you want to discuss; choose either one. But whichever you choose, it won't be enough to make a point either way; that's why I linked the Wikipedia article which lists many instances (not nearly all of them) where he made racist comments. And I'll repeat again: the whole world heard him make the remarks about the "bad people" coming from the south and he has been criticized over that by people from all over the world. Are all those people wrong? Or is Trump simply a racist?

I don't know. I want to look more deeply into the comments. I know that whenever I have done that in the past, I find that what we have been told and shown by MSM have been misleading snippets of what he really said, that any qualifying comments he also made are left out. It is as if they set out to show he is a racist, rather than actually listening to what he has said. I know regarding Charlottesville he made unequivocally condemnatory statements about neo-nazis and white supremacists, but those are not shown, or are explained away as back tracking on his part. You WANT to think the president of the US is a racist, but maybe on closer inspection you would find he is no worse than Biden or Harris, who have also made racist statements on a number of occasions. The difference between the Harris/Biden team and Trump is that the former have also instituted laws and policies that were/are racist and they have both done great harm as legislator and prosecutor to POC. We overlook these actions just as we overlook Trump's helpful actions, all to drive the narrative that he is evil and they are not.

I just had an interesting conversation with a couple of liberals, one of whom had posted a meme that anyone who supports trump is a racist. I pointed out the right has ample evidence that Biden is a pedophile, so does that mean anyone who votes for Biden is also a pedophile? Simple logic, but here's the thing that is interesting: they had never ever seen any of the many videos of Biden groping little girls and boys against their will. They had never seen them, they knew nothing of them.

I think all the candidates are human. I think Trump has diarrhea of the mouth. I think the left WANTS to think he is evil scum, and so that is what many liberals see. I think the right WANTS to see that Biden is evil scum, so that is what many conservatives see. I KNOW MSM is mostly under the left's control and often shows us blatant lies, so anyone who gets their info from there, or from wikipedia (come on man even our children are not allowed to cite wikipedia because it is largely biased and uncorroborated information) are misinformed pretty much about all things Trump.

I think Trump is just a doufus who got elected because the Democratic Party is run by criminals, liars, and fools. This does not mean the Republican Party is not also run by criminals, liars and fools. Both parties got us here, both parties are complicit in the global tyranny we now live under. Both parties have passed convoluted law after convoluted law so that now each American has to commit a felony or two every day just to put food on the table.

Perhaps focusing on policies Trump has pushed as POTUS is more valuable than hashing over wikipedia insinuations and your conviction that he is a pussy grabbing greedy racist. Policies instituted are hard cold facts, whereas insinuations and convictions are not provable or disprovable, nor do they matter really. Maybe if we stuck to policy, you would see that Trump is not doing such a bad job despite his very many human failings. Or maybe I would find that he is not. We are all so focused on and distracted by garbage in the news, few of us see what has actually transpired in our laws.