I agree that the electric car industry, as it stands, is far from perfect and is only as clean as the energy it uses as 'fuel'.
However, it's important to remember that:
- The oil industry is extremely polluting and is responsible for the death and serious health problems of large numbers of people globally - just look at the pure evil involved in the Chevron oil cases in South/Central America and the constant pollution and harm caused by similar activities in African regions.. To just scratch the surface. Remember the Gulf of Mexico spill(s)? By far the most serious ecological catastrophes have stemmed from oil.. Without even mentioning the many wars that are fought over oil and the millions of deaths involved.
- The components required by electric cars are in much less demand presently than those used by oil powered cars. This results in both a high cost for acquisition of the materials involved and also an under developed and potentially unethical supply chain. People such as Musk (for all his faults) are aware of this and have addressed them in long term plans to improve the situation. The more people use evs, the greater the necessity to improve the situation and the more resources there are to fix it. As Musk pointed out at the Tesla investor meeting a few weeks ago - There is a detailed plan in place to improve the supply chain and lower costs at the same time. Whether they do this is another matter.
- It's true that some components in EVs are hard to acquire outside of warzone type areas and areas populated by scumbags - however, this is also true for laptops, smartphones and other electrical equipment. So any downcry of EVs for this reason probably also needs to include the device you are typing on.
Neither solution is perfect - however, the oil industry easily rates as one of the most evil constructs in human history, proven over and over again. Electrical components are engrained into all areas of life already, including oil based cars. I think the process of improving electrical car construction is far more straightforward and likely than anything equivalent from the oil industry. History makes this clear.
Thanks in advance for your comments, it is very accurate on many points and I agree on many of them, but:
I assure you that the same investor groups that have a stake in the oil companies are in the companies that manufacture electric cars, so we are talking about the same, with the same evil system.
I assure you that there are other technologies to be used in cars such as the hydrogen engine (there are others), which pollute much less and that it is not convenient for "them" to develop.
In addition, everything that is behind the "environmental wave" promoted by globalists, who demand higher taxes from taxpayers to give subsidies to these companies through laws promoted by corrupt politicians who only obey the elites; You don't see the same pattern.
As for the parts or components, of course there is a greater demand from combustion cars because there are many more than electric cars, the car business sells parts; the electric car business is the subsidies and the battery; That is why many traditional companies that manufacture cars are beginning to manufacture electric cars, it is another business, do not fall for innocent and believe that they do it for the planet.
And not to mention Musk's character, it is more than documented that he is part of the evil elite that you mention.
And you are wrong in comparing an electronic device, or the 8 -12 4.8 g lithium cells used by a laptop that I don't have, because I use a desktop one; with the 10,000 grams of lithium that an electric car uses.
Also, I wouldn't worry much about the CO2 that cars burn, I would worry about the millions of harmful substances that are everywhere produced by the millions of industries that the corporate elites you mention manage and that are present in our food and medicines, A professional in the area tells you.
Everything can be improved, the problem is that it doesn't suit "them".
I was involved in the free energy community 20 years ago and am well aware of the situation and of the people who have been murdered trying to deliver truly free alternatives, such as engines that run on water. I am not ignorant of these things, I am simply focusing on the topic of oil vs electricity, since that is where the dynamic of the commercial world is stuck at present. In reality, there is no 'best' technology because all of these technologies - even the totally clean ones - are a replacement for the allowance of the development of our own internal energy, which is the actual source of creation.
So I am not 'pro electric car' per se, I simply know that the electric car option is better for us - once mature - than the oil one is. The lithium batteries are likely only a temporary design and there are alternatives that are more efficient and that don't use lithium already on the way to market.
Yes, the same shady groups control most/all large corporations and no we should not trust them to be operating in our best interests. None the less, we are using cars.
It is estimated that we currently have something like 18.5 billion cell phones on earth (https://www.statista.com/statistics/245501/multiple-mobile-device-ownership-worldwide/). Using the measure of lithium you quoted, that roughly equates to 888 million KG of lithium within them.
It is estimated that a Tesla batter has between 5 and 75kg of Lithium (depending on the model): https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/dec/13/instagram-posts/instagram-post-misleads-about-lithium-mining-and-t/
If we take a figure near the top end, of around 60kg per car, then this equates to roughly 14.8M Telsas to equal the amount of lithium in the cell phones currently in use. In 2022 just over 10M EVs were delivered globally (across all manufacturers), but they don't all use that much lithium.
If we add in the other electric devices that use Lithium batteries, it seems possible that very roughly, the total EVs might use less than the other devices combined at this point. Ultimately, it is less important whether cars or computers use the most than it is to understand the damage being done and how it can be fixed. However, I just make this point to highlight that it is entirely relevant to compare these two technology types if you are trying to frame one as being terrible and the other as irrelevant.
I agree that overall pollution is more of a concern than CO2 and I agree that there are huge lies being told in this regard. The truth gets denied 10 times in a news article or news show before I even have time to open my mouth.
Despite all of the downsides and challenges, I am still pretty clear that on balance the electric option is the safer when compared to oil.