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RE: Ukrainian forces continue pushing forward! Russia blamed for nordstream one and two sabotage.

in Deep Dives2 years ago (edited)

Acts of violence, for which no-one takes public responsibility, that could escalate war or affect political processes need to be viewed with a very open mind. While it might seem on the surface that one group benefits more from such an act than do other groups, the reality is that there are very evil groups on earth who seek to benefit from ALL such violence. The interests of such groups do not align with those of the people of any particular region or nation - they have their own agendas and goals entirely. It's funny how so many people love James Bond movies and the evil masterminds but completely fail to consider that such plots are based on reality. There are numerous groups and individuals who operate outside of national oversight, who would and could have triggered the events with the pipeline.

Sadly though, we still live in a time where large numbers of people think the World Trade Center complex was brought down by a guy on kidney dialysis in a cave.

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What if this was a much more sophisticated operation behind this? Russia would have an interest to blow up pipelines, just not their own. It may just be that NATO detected Russian mines on other pipelines and then moved them to NS1+2. Russia then blew up their own pipeline thinking it was Norway's pipelines. See my post here with some more thoughts about this scenario.

The most simple logic would be to look at who benefits the most. That would be the Western operators of the new pipeline since there is now no possible way of Russia's supply competing with them in future. A false flag attack by Russia is possible, but Putin has repeatedly shown he doesn't really need anything tangible to justify violence in his own mind.

Totally agree...

However the facts of the case really point to sabotage by Russia as if any NATO nation was to undertake this this would be a situation that would endanger the entire North Atlantic treaty organization alliance....

And who is the only person crazy enough to be able to demand this strike?

How about what countries warships were recently involved in the immediate area that these events took place at?

And if you look at the evidence military analysts are saying that only the world's highest developed militaries would be able to pull this mission off.

So basically I'm still putting my money on Russia self-sabotaging their own pipeline especially with the huge amount of pressure Russian forces have been putting on Germany especially with the canceled German tanks they had pledged to Ukraine which would absolutely be changing the course of this conflict.

Western Nations absolutely would not have done this and Iran does not have the capability China is dealing with its own problems at home.

And this absolutely couldn't have been done by some idiot in a cave.

There is absolutely no reason to trust 'expert military analysts' at this point, any more than 'celebrity public health experts' should be trusted. Reality is that the attempt at full spectrum domination is well under way and this means that a very high percentage of the voices heard online are compromised and/or have bought into lies that have them shutting out real possibilities.

If any 'nation' undertook this, it definitely wouldn't be 'the nation' in fact that did it - it would be a small group of people behind the scenes. So, again, this is guaranteed to be the actions of people who more closely resemble Dr. Evil than any particular nation. In terms of tech, I am sure that most billionaires can source exotic tech to pull this off in such relatively low depth water.

I don't know exactly who did it at this point, I'm just wanting to point out that deeper logic is usually needed in these cases than anything that appears straightforwards on the surface.

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