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RE: What Happened on the Moon? (2000) [eng/срп] Шта се десило на Месецу? (2000)

in Deep Dives3 years ago

"...with the photo equipment and film presented, it was not possible to make a single quality photo on the Moon surface...And all the fantastic technology that made them doing it in 1969 is now destroyed?"

I have previously stated there are other reasons for NASA to fake photographs besides not being on the moon, which you have ignored and pretend instead I disagree NASA faked photography. I also agree that NASA's claim to have lost the technology to go to the moon falls flat, and I do not believe it. There is no good reason for you to imply I claimed otherwise.

"You are basically saying that a massive false info is enough for you to believe that something impossible is actually possible."

You are implying that there is no factual evidence at all, and that is as baseless as the lies you oppose. The evidence of the Apollo program is voluminous. Will you descend so deeply into the counter narrative that you would claim Saturn V rocket launches fake? That is the insinuation you make above, that all evidence of the Apollo program is false.

In the film you linked the very first arguments that the images of Earth from space are faked are highly speculative, making claims that are purely conjecture about how the camera was held to a window, and from that initial pejoration of photographic evidence, no attempt is made to be impartial whatsoever. I am averse to that malignant spirit, because it is not seeking to ascertain facts, but to convince viewers of their thesis by any means. It is the model of fraudulent science, of cherry picking data and salting sites - exactly what NASA has done.

Do you intend to mimic those you claim have deceived us by using false insinuations and implications? Why do you leap to conclusions insuperable with factual evidence? The truth does not need to be protected from facts and honest reason. If your purpose is to reveal truth, there is no need to twist my words and put falsehoods into my mouth.

"Apollo Astronauts going through the Van Allen Belts received a very low and non-harmful dose of radiation."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Allen_radiation_belt

"In 2015-16, NASA astronaut Scott Kelly and Russian cosmonaut Mikhail Kornienko remained there for almost a year. As astronauts stay in orbit for longer, their radiation exposure may also increase, leading to concerns about long-term habitation for astronauts in space."
https://www.space.com/33948-van-allen-radiation-belts.html

"...you have a fact that NASA today is searching a way to go through the Van Allen Belt...">

Is the ISS fake, or were Kelly and Kornienko sacrificed by being irradiated? Why do you repeat such obvious misinformation?

I have not said I believe NASA. Indeed, there is a great deal more that I believe NASA lies about. What I did say was that the preponderance of the evidence - and lunar photographs are only a tiny subset of that evidence - indicates that NASA succeeded in landing men on the moon, and that is what I believe: the preponderance of the evidence indicates NASA did land men on the moon.

Please note that is not even a claim of certainty NASA did so.

However, nothing I understand about physics disproves in any way that NASA did do so.

You have so dedicated yourself to the narrative that NASA is duplicitous that you ignore obvious and irrefutable facts and impute arguments to me I do not make. It is unnecessary and directly contrary to reason to descend to such depths of opposition to NASA's duplicity.

I expect better of you.

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I have previously stated there are other reasons for NASA to fake photographs besides not being on the moon, which you have ignored and pretend instead I disagree NASA faked photography. I also agree that NASA's claim to have lost the technology to go to the moon falls flat, and I do not believe it. There is no good reason for you to imply I claimed otherwise.

I did not say that you have claimed otherwise, I have said that just those two things are enough to conclude it was all a fake.

The evidence of the Apollo program is voluminous.

No, they aren’t, as the movie convincingly show.

…Saturn V rocket launches fake?

No, they were not fake – but that is not a proof that Saturn V went to the moon. It was a good orbit vehicle. It went into orbit, and it has returned from the orbit. The rest is a TV fiction.

Why do you leap to conclusions insuperable with factual evidence?

The movie is full of evidence – if you want to look at it. Far better evidence than NASA ever offered.

Is the ISS fake, or were Kelly and Kornienko sacrificed by being irradiated? Why do you repeat such obvious misinformation?

ISS is at 380 km orbit. Far below Van Allen Belt and protected from the deadly radiation. If you would please to read the links you have send me, you will find this:

“Earth's two main belts extend from an altitude of about 640 to 58,000 km (400 to 36,040 mi)”

Nobody did go through Van Allen Belt. Russians had sent a protected probe with a various living Earth organisms at 800 km, and I thing only snails survived.

Please check your facts again.

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