Splinterlands Strategies: Who’s going to buy all the Grain?

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I kept posing the question: “Who’s going to buy all the Grain?”. I asked a few other large landholders, I posted the question in the Splinterlands Mavericks forum.

Everyone was so stoked for land; they were looking at the Emperor's New Clothes and little else.

Nobody was responding; there was no plausible answer.

Some of us have tracts, others have regions. That's a lot of grain output and a hefty requirement in terms of DEC and Monsters to produce it, and for what?


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...'Natural Land is good for nothing besides Grain..., for now. Jungle Creepers, or Lake Weed.., yummy'...

Like me, everyone is thinking, ‘I can become self-sufficient; I don’t need to buy any Grain after the first few days as harvesting my own will suffice’.

So then there is a huge glut of grain, with nobody buying and the value falling off the edge of a cliff. People will get despondent and start complaining about the lack of income. It's always about the return and bollocks to the teething problems.


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...'Harvesting your Shard Mine gives you SPS, but those workers digging away and saying BOOO..., to those Monsters intent on not letting you near that tasty SPS need food. It costs and they are hungry bastards'...

This IS going to happen; it’s plain as daylight to me and after playing around on the Mavericks server with two regular Grain farms, one Shard Mine and one Research Hut I find there’s just enough Grain to feed the latter two (which don’t produce Grain).

Let’s go forward to the real world. There’s going to be far more Grain farms than Shard Mines, or Research Huts. Too much Grain will be a problem…, for now.

What should we do with it? Sell for peanuts, hoard it, and pray that it turns into real grain so it can feed the world and replace Ukraine's blockaded exports.

While option three would be fantastic and completely piss off Vladimir, it’s not going to happen.


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...'running a Grain farm does produce a decent yield, but it's workers appear extra ravenous. Take taxes off and you might get half of what you produce'...

What am I going to do with all my excess Grain? I have a total of 69 plots and that number happened by accident and not because I have a particular fondness for that position.

I can see just what’s going on in your head now , let’s get back to Splinterlands eh…?

In the short term there could be some great deals, so look out for them. Everyone wants things to happen NOW and if it doesn’t happen, they get very pissed off and some may even sell out.

Splinterlands is in the doldrums, I think we can all agree on that, and Land was supposed to be its saviour. Maybe it is, but it's going to take time and all you impatient bastards are not going to see instant redemption.

The whole point of Land originally was to add a second phase before battles commenced. Then the player would add a buff to try and swing the battle ensuring a victory.


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...'Research Huts don't give out large numbers and we still don't know what research tokens will give us. Note the Grain requirements to harvest'...

As far as I am aware that vision is still the intent of the Splinterlands team. They also mentioned other resources, up to 40 or so. That’s a lot of tokens BESIDES Grain which is the first of many.

I envisage more types of resources to come soon to Land, which means all your Grain farms, will no longer be producing Grain but something else, unless you don't switch them.

Those workers mining 'Stone' will still need to be fed and they will want to eat Grain, or maybe 'Smoked Salmon with Cream Cheese with cherries on top' if that’s a future resource.

Unless you want to dedicate yourself to being a pure farmer, not in the literal sense but practically, and want to produce JUST Grain, then I can see many options becoming available.

Everyone is so impatient, and they are working their arses off. We are coming close to seeing the first steps of Land, and having played around with it, I want my REAL plots to become useful. If you haven’t had a play, then take it from me it’s cool but limited (for now).


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...'if you are lucky enough to own a Keep then expect your 'office workers' or 'tax collectors' to be something akin to a pack of ravenous wolves. 6,000 Grain to collect that meagre booty?'...

I have many Lakes, do you really think they are conducive for Grain farming? I may be one of the future 'Grain Buyers' unless my many Jungle plots can create it efficiently.

I am going to HORDE my Grain and if you have any sense and are in Land for the long haul I would suggest you do the same.

Once your Deserts and Tundra's have more meaningful resources to farm, you are going to need that stockpile of resources for those poor monsters out there in hostile territory digging up things for you, the master and overlord of your virtual real-estate empire.

Unless you want to feed your Djinn Renova with a little crunchy Sand, or a mouthwatering slice of dry ice?

Disclaimer: This is how I see Land unfolding. It is my opinion. You can completely disregard my hypothesis if you choose.

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What should we do with it? Sell for peanuts, hoard it, and pray that it turns into real grain so it can feed the world and replace Ukraine's blockaded exports.

I like the sound of this option :OD

I think I will just try to make some bread with mine.

Wheat field, got some Plains?

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Age of Empires was a complex game, must have been very cut down to run on that.

Sounds like a plan. I haven't even played around with it yet, but I am more of a saver than a spender anyway, so it makes sense to me.

It's my feeling, I could be completely off. A week ago, I had no idea what I would do with all this Grain. Hopefully my ideas are the same as theirs.

I am just waiting for it to be officially released, then I will see what I am going to do. I only have six plots, so it doesn't much matter I don't think.

thanks for this preview and considerations about grain and lands
Before reading your post I had an opinion of wheat, now I changed my mind and decided to start putting in stakes lots of "Smoked Salmon with Cream Cheese with cherries on top" Because I think my workers will work harder if they eat better :) !LOL

I have three natural lands, and this post of yours has given me more elements to start considering possible strategies when phase 1 begins
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"Smoked Salmon with Cream Cheese with cherries on top" Because I think my workers will work harder if they eat better :) !LOL

Hehe, Grains sounds boring, they are going to strike if we keep feeding them horse food!

I have three natural lands, and this post of yours has given me more elements to start considering possible strategies when phase 1 begins

It will take time, and SPL don't seem to be getting anything out of this revenue-wise which bothers me. They need to sell product to pay the devs who are doing all this work.

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It's going to be carnage price wise.

Probably there will be an option to mill it into something worth 100 times as much, once it's gone down 100 times in value.

A little like GLX, but worse I think.

I don't expect my couple of plots to earn me much. I've not checked what I need to do with them. I do think Splinterlands have lost the plot as it's all about big investors and the casual players are forgotten about. I've just been renting cards for a while and that income is decreasing.

I've just been renting cards for a while and that income is decreasing.

If you mean renting yours out, that is very poor now. Try renting your SPS out, if you don't need it for playing as a multiplier.

I don't expect my couple of plots to earn me much.

I think everyone's going to have some fun with this, I like world-building games, and a real one will be great.

I've not played in ages as I don't have the time. I could look to see if it's worth selling a few cards to fund other things.

If you are not playing, then look into renting your SPS out. You can use peakmonsters for this here. It's easy to do, and leases are 7 days. You do need to manually cancel them.

The APR seems less that I get from staking it. It's no big deal.

How do I make my land productive? The UI is not too helpful.

The APR seems less that I get from staking it. It's no big deal.

It's a double deal, you get the cake and eat it.

How do I make my land productive? The UI is not too helpful.

You can't yet. I'm working on the test server.

How do I make my land productive? The UI is not too helpful.

You can't yet. I'm working on the test server.

Ah! They are really taking their time to implement this stuff.

While option three would be fantastic and completely piss off Vladimir, it’s not going to happen.

I'm not sure which side you are on, but let's not turn this into a political debate 😀

It's one of the reasons I'm kind of skipping on land only having 3 plots. The main value in the end should come from packs with Spells & Items but those will go at market prices and not at a fixed value unlike packs sold by the team. So unless there is another adoption wave it should be another race to the bottom.

In the end it's only 1 real thing what it all comes down to, more new players coming in to make the economy hold up. Since everyone comes in or goes out at the same time, it creates these crazy inevitable boom & bust cycles.

It may take a long time for this to come to fruition, but it is good to be in the mix. I can hardly bail at a time like this when everything is in the gutter. Would be foolish to do so. 3 plots is good, I know a few peeps who have similar portfolios.

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so you are saying it costs a lot of grain to maintain 5 monsters on a plot? I didn't get the gist of it

It takes DEC to maintain them, and grain to feed them. You do get excess grain, but it could be quite worthless for a while.

i have 375K grains

On the Mavs server!

nope this i HODL.. I am not on the Mavs server. cheers

Where do you buy it?

If I am not mistaken it has to do something with the dec-b sale.

Yeah, I just went for those 'box' deals. It was a while ago, I can't remember.

i'm loaded with 150k from somewhere!

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i think if you sacrifice enough grains to the gods you should get a totem... or maybe a title.

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Hmm
Well, people who play Splinterlands would be able to give a better idea or shed more light to this but I see so many people who said they are not really playing like they used to before

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Very crude idea here but hear me out.

At certain epochs, accumulated grains are deposited into a fund basket that is used to by physical real estate, like land in parts of the world with potential for increase in value, example, Land in Nigeria is a gold mine, buy acres of land, resell in 5 years and split the returns to everyone who contributed grain. Just thinking out loud.

69 plots, hmm. I see you are a man of culture too. Hahaha just kidding. For me the best way to increase usability of grain is still to market and increase player base and attract more investors.

I am going to HORDE my Grain

This is what they want us to do!

They called it grain, everyone needs grain - hold it, store it, stake it, trade it?