When the Silver Gold Stackers community voted on the proposal to change the way the @ssg-community account operates it was a really close vote. A lot of members supported the proposal because they wanted to see a return to focus on rewarding precious metals content using the #SilverGoldStackers tag, but a lot of members also wanted the freedom to write about other things and still be supported.
So while the vote was being conducted and when the code for Precious 2.0 was being designed in late August we were thinking a lot about how we might come up with a compromise that could bring a focus to producing precious metals content on the tag but would also still support members producing other quality content too. That’s when we came up with the idea of the Precious Gems, so a new secret feature was developed for Precious 2.0 that we could unlock when the time was right…
First we wanted to give the #SilverGoldStackers tag a really good push, do our best to encourage members to write about precious metals and maybe re-engage with some of the older members of the community who had drifted away. That push has been successful to some degree and while we’ve encouraged a few members to refocus their posting efforts there still isn’t really enough precious metals content being produced for Precious 2.0 to vote on. Even though we maxxed out our Gold Tier vote at 100% we’ve struggled to keep Voting Power consistently below 100% without some manual intervention.
The manual intervention was only ever intended to be a short term solution while we gave Precious 2.0 some time to find her new equilibrium. However, now that she’s had a chance to show what she can do and we’re still flirting with 100% VP semi-regularly it might be time for us to Unlock the Precious Gems feature - so let dive into how that actually works.
The idea is that if you make a qualifying post on the #SilverGoldStackers tag then you are credited with a “Precious Gem” which you can use up on your next post OFF the tag (which would NOT normally qualify for a vote) to still get a vote from Precious 2.0. You then can’t get another vote on a post that isn’t using the #SilverGoldStackers tag until you earn another Precious Gem. The result of this is that as long as at least 50% of your posts are about precious metals and using the #SilverGoldStackers tag then you can still get Precious 2.0 to support you on your other posts about your other interests.
With a broader appeal for subscribers it will potentially help us spend the excess VP to keep us consistently below 100% and still have a focus on supporting both the People AND the Content of the Silver Gold Stackers community. At first we will try to keep things simple and unlock this feature so that only one Precious Gem can be held by each member at a time, but it is designed to be configurable if we want more flexibility in future once members get a handle on how it works.
Of course, if we are supporting content that is not using the #SilverGoldStackers tag it will be important for us to still review what Precious 2.0 is voting on and some quality guidelines will need to be put in place to protect the integrity of our upvoting service going forward. The intention is to gradually increase these quality guidelines over time once Precious 2.0 finds an equilibrium point for its VP because the last thing we want to do is to attract whale downvotes to Precious 2.0 as that would potentially taint the community account and hurt all members.
We hope that members will be supportive of Unlocking the Precious Gems feature. It is intended to be a good compromise solution that is reflective of the initial proposals split vote, but if enough members believe it is necessary then we can hold another vote about unlocking this feature so please let us know what you think with a comment below.
This seems like a great idea for folks who don't post about PM's everyday. You guys are always coming up with awesome ideas to reward our members!
Thanks mate. It's about finding that right balance. Hopefully we are getting closer with each idea :)
I counted 5 or 6 original YES voters who have zero posted on #silvergoldstackers after the vote so I assume they like me are in favor of this adjustment without a new vote. Thx man !
To be fair, some of those who voted YES was because they wanted to consume more PM content rather than produce and be rewarded for it. I know we have some very generous gold tier members who rarely, if ever, post but they're never too far away.
That’s a fair compromise in my opinion
I'm glad you think so. Generally speaking I think most of us want the same outcome, it's just figuring out how best to get that outcome is the tricky part.
I think this is a great compromise! I really like it!
Are you just tracking it manually? Are people meant to message you to cash in their gem?
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It would be automatically tracked within the code and database. Ideally we want to remove any dependency on manual intervention and reduce (as much as possible) discretionary usage of the community account.
Let me understand: you want to reward members of #silvergoldstackers that are posting about, let's say, "Gothic Architecture" and not using the tag, instead of rewarding members that post more than once a day with the tag #silvergoldstackers on his/hers articles and these are about precious metals.
If the above is true, I would like to ask a personal doubt: I write two daily different articles about my coin collection, one in English with the account @ronavel and one in Portuguese with the account @ronaldoavelino. On both I use the #silvergoldstackers tag, but I am only upvoted daily on the @ronavel's articles.
So I will receive a Precious Gem everyday due to @ronavel's article. If I stop using the tag on @ronaldoavelino's articles, they will now be upvoted because of the Precious Gem that I have just received. That will happen everyday.
Is it what you are proposing?
If yes, thank you very much!
@welshstacker @buggedout
No, that's not how it works. The subscription model is only one account per member of the community.
Precious 1.0 had 0% requirement for subscribers to post about precious metals and the initial Precious 2.0 had 100% requirement for subscribers to post about precious metals. This change is about finding a middle ground so that (at least) 50% of supported posts need to be about precious metals.
"One account per member of the community". No problems.
Let's suppose that a member writes two posts daily on his/hers account. The first one uses the #silvergoldstackers tag and is about precious metals. He is upvoted and gains one Precious Gem. The second article, hours later, is about anything and it doesn't use the tag. According to what you wrote in the article above, this second post would use the Precious Gem and would be upvoted too. That way the member would receive two upvotes daily, using the same account.
Am I wrong?
@buggedout
No, that is correct as long as a minimum of 12 hours has passed between the posts.
In short, it is possible to get 2 votes a day and split your daily allocation in half if you time it right. With the Precious Gems feature one could be about metals and the other about anything. As long as there is some quality in the posts that is a fine way to go if you choose.
The idea of getting two votes a day, splitting the daily allocation in half is prone to abuse. For example, a member delegated 2500HP or sent the hive equivalent and receives a maximum of 100% vote from Precious. To him/her, it is no use to post twice a day for he/she cannot receive more than a 100% upvote daily. Now, if this member reduces the delegation or the hive equivalent, just to receive a 50% upvote, he/she will receive it twice a day. It is not fair to expend half the HP or hives monthly and receive the same total daily upvote that another member, who spent the full HP or hives, receives.
So, instead of using this 12 hours interval, let's make it simple, not abusable and according to what you wrote on the article above:
The member posts today using the tag and receives the Precious Gem. Today he/she will not receive any other upvote from Precious. Tomorrow he/she will receive his/her due upvote, irrelevant if he/she used or not the tag and will not receive any other upvote tomorrow. And that goes on. You write about precious metals, you receive one Precious Gem (you can only have one PG at any time) and you use it the next time you write a tagless post, never receiving two upvotes on the same day.
Of course, if you do not post for a few days, you have Precious's votes accumulating in value, but this does not affect the idea behind Precious Gems.
@buggedout
That is not how the Vote Accruals work. If you post after only half a day then you only get half that days allocation. It is not open to abuse the way you describe.
We are very focused on preventing abuse and will have our eyes open. If you see any abuse please let us know.
I repeat: twelve hours intervals are prone to abuse, according to all that you stated in all the above comments and in the main article. I will show now a situation that is totally legal and it is an abuse.
Until today I receive a 100% upvote daily, no matter at what time I post and no matter the number of articles using the tag (at least one). Right?
Day 1: I will post an article using the tag at, let's say, 6 AM. I will receive my 100% upvote and a Gem. At 6:01 PM I will post anything, not using the tag. So, I will receive a 50% upvote.
Day 2: I will post an article using the tag at 7 PM. I will receive my 100% upvote and a Gem.
Day 3: I will post an article using the tag at 6 AM. I will receive my 100% upvote. At 6:01 PM I will use the Gem and will receive the 50% upvote.
Day 4: Same as Day 2.
Do you remember why you had to change the 23 hours minimal interval for the bot to upvote an account?
Because fixed time intervals are always prone to abuse. That is why Precious votes once a day, no matter at what time the post was published.
I propose, again, what I wrote above:
"The member posts today using the tag and receives the Precious Gem. Today he/she will not receive any other upvote from Precious. Tomorrow he/she will receive his/her due upvote, irrelevant if he/she used or not the tag and will not receive any other upvote tomorrow. And that goes on. You write about precious metals, you receive one Precious Gem (you can only have one PG at any time) and you use it the next time you write a tagless post, never receiving two upvotes on the same day.
Of course, if you do not post for a few days, you have Precious's votes accumulating in value, but this does not affect the idea behind Precious Gems."
@buggedout @welshstacker
That's really an innovative solution! But I think it should be implemented as a temporary measure until there are sufficient PM related posts for Precious to vote upon.
Sorry, I have been away. Would you believe that for the first time in a long while, I missed posting an article yesterday? I need to scramble now and write one up!
@ssg-community, this is an excellent move in the right direction! I personally would encourage all to get behind this initiative. Let as together unlock the Precious Gem feature! 💪💪💪
Have a wonderful week, everyone, and take care 🥰🌺🤙
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