Never in all the decades I've spent on the internet have I seen such a blatant battle over narrative online, with obvious paid shills popping up by the thousands in order to push their puppet masters message all the while scaring the shit out of the zombies in the population.. All while telling them that if the unvaccinated folks are a danger to them and their families...
This is causing normal, every day vaccinated people to relentlessly hound unvaxx'd folks and come up with gems such as calling them anti-vaxxers even though they are not.. And for the record I'm not anti-vaxx in the slightest.. What I am, however, is anti mass experimentation and not apt to inject hot garbage which is basically untested with unknown long term side effects into me.. I'd sooner shoot up scuzzy pond water than the fucking vaccine, to put it into perspective.. Atleast shooting up pond water you sort of know what is going to happen long term.
Saw this little post on reddit.. It in a sense drove it home how fucking stupid people are being and how the currently ruling class are using fear to polarize / create a divide amongst the people:
If it's not blatantly obvious to folks of the internet yet, the tactic being deployed onto the populous is text book "divide and conquer" strategy and while I hate to say it, it appears to be working in a highly effective manner, with people completely abandoning logic and reason out of being whipped into a fear frenzy by main stream media. In turn this is causing them to literally go out of their way to attack and ridicule the unvaxx'd who are effectively fighting for freedom of choice for everyone..
What the Actual Fuck?
People need to be increasingly more aware and cognoscente of what is going on not only in main stream media but also on "public" forums. There are massive droves of paid government shills online at this very moment spreading fear where they can and polarizing people against those with the mental fortitude to realize that injecting basically untested trash into yourself isn't going to help with COVID, given the short term efficiency data of the vaxx now becoming available. Gambling on an untested vaccine against a bug that has a ~1% kill rate is fucking insane and the fact so many have been spooked into taking that garbage, then on top of that to then be made militant against those with common sense to avoid it...? Cmon folks, if you can't see what the fuck is going on here then you're either daft or the vaccine has somehow caused a cognitive decline within yourself.
Fight this shit with logic and reason, point out when others aren't using it, and hopefully we can turn the tide of this horse shit going on without having to fire a single shot... Stay safe comrades!
This has been a long running narrative that has only now really ramped up into this frenzy. FB has been polarizing people with their algo for years. Same as twitter. Without people being at each other's throats they would turn their attention towards the gov't, which is exactly what they don't want. A people divided is an easy people to control.
100% agree with you. If the commoner stopped and thought for a second, saw the way the world is as I do, parliament buildings would be on fire in an hour.
Interesting how many humans have abdicated their power to the governments and mega corps with no thought to the potential problems, just dumb and happy walking into the cage of starving lions thinking everything is going to be just fine. The streets should be filled with "pitch forks and fire" like old and deal with this quickly instead of walking the same path that has been trod before.
Agree with you 100%.
It's a sad state of affairs, but entirely by design it seems sadly.
Ridiculous amount of resistance normal people are putting up to those trying to open their eyes to the situation. It makes me feel like the whole thing is being done to leave only the subservient and outlaw or starve out the ones putting up true resistance to tyranny.
It's the typical syndrome where people think they can make a utopia but discount human nature. Governments only want subservient people who are essentially robots to streamline the governing but most people just want to be left the hell alone.
Well said.
The whole virus vaccine method is known and well tested though… It is just the virus without the DNA, so from all I know is, to healthy individuals the worst thing is nothing will happen. Some people might have an overreaction but that happens to any vaccine, so being against this kind of vaccine because of adverse effects would be being against every vaccine.
There are other 3 types of vaccines I do not know much about, but those are the ones that would be valid to criticize as apparently they are newer.
Whole virus vaccine is old, and coronavirus whole virus vaccines are old R&D started before the COVID19, so I don’t think it is fair nor logical to say “I don’t know what the long term effects are”.
Talking about long term effects, what would convince you of the long term effects? Objectively, how long and why?
Also, you take any vaccines? What are the requirements for you to take them?
I am asking because “long term” is relative and I dis not understand your point. If long term is, let us say, 80 years, would you only take vaccines that have been tested for 80 years, so that you know what effects are over a lifespan of a person?
Life has many variables and new things show up every day, the longer the term the harder it is to say, for example “oh yes that definitely a side effect of vaccines, and not electromagnetic radiation 10 years later”.
If you do not do something because you have not seen the effects over a whole lifetime of a person, then how would you use anything invented recently? You would have to live in the last century. That is the point of people that are against radio waves, they argue that phones and wifi are so new we don’t know what would happen in 50 years, but would you stop using wireless for 50 years to see the effects?
Those are some questions someone has to take into account when questioning “are vaccines too new to be considered safe?”.
The vaccines will soon complete 2 years. How long do you expect to wait?
Will wait indefinitely likely. As it sits, from what we know of potential adverse side effects is that perfectly normal people in some instances seem to be having a massive clotting reaction to the foreign proteins generated by the phenotype modification of the cells caused by the vaccine.. So rather than you know, get a blood clot and have a potential life ending stroke, just going to avoid that shit. The spooky part for me is lots of the reports of people having bad effects / dying were otherwise healthy people... So it almost seems like some peoples natural immune system react horribly to these new vaccines.
The last time I was vaccinated was the Mumps, Rubella and Measles vaccine all in one.. That vaccine was developed and tested well over 2 decades before I took it. We knew / know what the long term side effects of that particular popular vaccine is.. We cannot say the same about these novel corona virus vaccines in the slightest.
It all boils down to what your risk tolerance is on taking research chemicals or basically untested (long term) forms of immune system modifications. Mine on that is low as hell, I'm somewhat healthy, no need to complicate things potentially and die from a clot induced stroke.
You do ask some important questions here though. it is a down to earth approach in some sense and I respect this.
As for me:
I used to trip off street drugs when I was a teenager, no idea what I was actually taking, only the word of the dealer for it and what I felt.
After remembering what I used to do out of boredom I feel fine and safe taking a vaccine, from a doctor in a hospital, that was tested and peer reviewed, even if some people question if it was enough test.
Ah yes, to be young and wild again. putting all sorts of crazy drugs in our bodies.. hahahahah. Good times but I wouldn't go back to that, best left in the past!
I mean, is the vaccine safer than street drugs? Man I fucking hope so, but we really don't know for sure yet. Maybe I am paranoid, but I don't exactly take what the government or health / pharma industry says at face value anymore. :(
No way in hell I'll be taking any vaccine.. much less a untested one
Some vaccines at some point had a purpose, but I fear that purpose has been hijacked and perverse by governments and big pharma..
The data so far from it being rolled out shows it basically as likely to kill you as covid will.. That is fuckin' ridiculous!
Most vaccines took decades to come out.. not 6 months.. I think the vaccine is MORE likely to kill you than COVID is..
Your point is as valid as “most electronic devices took decades to develop, I won’t use any phone or computer released last year”
Science grows and development gets faster and better. It takes a few months of design to manufacture a processor take uses transistors that are just a few atoms wide. Why would you expect vaccines to also not evolve and forever “take decades to develop” for each new variant of the virus?
When I start injecting electronics I'll take this under advisement.. you are certainly free to inject yourself.. but I don't trust the people pushing it. They're literally paying people to get it.
How do you know electronics are safe and vaccines are not?
Remember people used to think radioactive materials were healthy and had beauty stuff made with Uranium? It took decades to discover. Same with tobacco. Same with canned food.
Where do you draw the line of when/what/where/how you consider safe?
Also, they are paying people to install phone towers near you, how do you know they are safe? We like under capitalism and people get paid…. I didn’t get your point about payment nor about how electronics are safe because they are not injected, because uranium was also not injected, mercury was not injected, yet people thought it was safe.
Some coherence is needed. We all are incoherent somehow, but there must be logic to it
It took decades, not 6 months.
https://www.ama-assn.org/delivering-care/public-health/how-decade-coronavirus-research-paved-way-covid-19-vaccines
Yep. Sort of thinking along the same lines.. Not only was this shit rushed as hell, it's also somewhat experimental in nature in it's operation of biological mechanism..
I think I'll hold off indefinitely.. Or atleast until the technology is proven to not be some type of trojan horse for something nastier.
And vice versa...
The worst part is.. I'll still fight for those retards freedom, where as they'd see the unvaxx'd cast out of society and imprisoned for "killing their grandma".
I'd have to actually leave the house to get infected then infect your grandma. :P
Picture a yard. Down the middle is a corridor. On each side of the corridor are walls made up of two-way mirrors. When inside the corridor, you can see out in both directions. When outside, you can only see the reflection. There are two groups. Both with opposing ideas they didn't invent themselves, split down the middle by this corridor, yelling at their reflections, insulting what they think is the other side, becoming more and more aggressive as they notice how what they think is the other side doesn't seem to be listening, while they encourage one another to keep going. Everyone on both sides was handed a red pill placebo by whichever media faction got to them first then shown a gate leading to their respective pens. Each pen has a loudspeaker constantly blasting the correct message for each pen. The other side can hear it but can't make sense of it as their own pen works to drown it out.
The real red pill is walking down this corridor; seeing the shit-show from all sides. I'm confident that's where most people are. Just passing through. Staying out of it. I wrote about it in a little more (and less) detail two posts ago. At the start I mentioned how it won't make sense. All I can really do is watch.
Glad to be somewhat actually red-pilled on all of this..
Interesting analogy here though. Certainly seems to resonate at the frequency we shit shit happening at now.
Divide and conquer only works if people take sides, so both sides would need to be enforced and maintained. Thoughts are injected into the minds. The people do the rest of the work fucking themselves, like usual. Those at the very top profit from both sides. Same old story. Supposed to question everything, not just the things you disagree with.
Needless to say, I don't make too many "friends" these days. I just don't feel like playing. Watching at first was fun, entertaining. Now it's just getting weird. When you observe all sides as one, you can even see how full of shit everyone is. Since both sides are conditioned to believe there are only two sides, stepping in between only makes it look like you're playing for the other team. That's why they put those mirrors there.
What's happening in the media, on both sides, that work as one unit, and what's happening in life; those are two very different things.
Duality is a fucking curse in the minds of many it seems.. It applies to most things but not all.. Sadly not everyone gets that.
Making friends is over rated, especially making friends with what are effectively morons, people are draining at times on top of that.. Atleast for the introvert types.
Unified / United Non-Compliance.
People are just being taken for a ride. It's no coincidence those posing as the alternative voice or the voice of the people or the anti-establishment or the silenced voice of reason or whatever the fuck else all switched to Afghanistan on the exact same frickin day.
It's called medical segregation and viral politics first used against blacks and gays during the HIV aids crisis . Same shit dude lol its insane. Imagine when the LGBT crowd snd blacks realize this and unite against the Democrat big pharma republican big tech two party system
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I got the vaccine, I'm not against those that haven't, I don't think it's wise for your health to skip it... I think you're a bit delusional, as with most commenters here, but eh, that's your choice.
I don't buy into this divide and conquer narrative either... I think it's a bit of paranoia grasping at straws... And perpetuating, nay, manifesting, your own insecurities. Idk, I just don't buy into it. Then again, I don't drink tap water myself because fuck that... Can't trust the water source anywhere tbh.. and there are far worse things all around us that can end our lives much faster then the vaccine...
But hey, this is the echo chamber.. so carry on and you do you boo. LoL.
Hey man, if you took the shot then I appreciate you taking one for the team.. If folks get vaccinated eventually "herd immunity" or whatever kicks in right?
I don't expect everyone to see things as I do or anyone else in the echo chamber does, and I totally agree on the tap water thing.. Shit is nasty and government supplied.
I'm not sure if the vaccine is intended to damage this generation so much as the next generations.. But we won't know for sure for a while. Hoping this doesn't turn into a thalidomide baby type situation but rather than physical deformity its mental deformity.
Respect your thoughts on it, completely think it's probably unwise to take what amounts to an untested vaccine, but you're crazier or braver than I am, which is respectable. :P
My father was
bravestupid for signing up for Vietnam deployment and intake mass amounts of agent orange... But here we are.. mostly functioning. LoL.I'm no doctor, and I'm not gonna listen to some YouTube/TikTok whackjobs, so I won't say much of anything as for facts on herd immunity, but we'll likely never hit that... Not without the majority being vaccinated... Like 90% (made up statistic, because I really don't know but I feel it's a high percentage)...
Also, have you looked up the ingredients for your food? Like bust out the label for everything you consume for a week, and lookup every ingredient.... You'd be surprised the shit you are already ingesting ... Unless you have your own farm and running off rainwater collection (still not safe from microplastics, as those have even been found in the fucking rain)... So.... Likely already fucked, but hey.. at least if you die from lack of a silly shot, you won't be around to enjoy the other side effects of large amounts of microplastics flowing through your veins... LoL..
Idk, I guess what I'm getting at is there are bigger battles to be worried about then a shot that's really insignificant when measured on the scale of your life.
It's not about taking the shot, so much as governments enforcing the fucking thing and or restricting the lives of those who haven't gotten it.. That shit is a SUPER slippery slope when it comes to tyranny.
Your old man fought in a prime example of the US doing some questionable shit, it's very similar to how Afghanistan turned out this last go around, Didn't really accomplish much in these wars sadly, lots of loss of life though, with few even profiting off the whole thing..
Can't say I disagree with the food on the shelves is fucked and not really fit for human consumption. Growing a modest garden personally as that what I've got room to do, but yeah, so much garbage on the shelves.
Looking at places like Israel where 100% of the population was vaccinated allegedly and it's still getting it's ass whooped by covid supposedly.. Then you have instances like Patrick King up here in Canada taking on the courts and government who went on record saying they can't provide evidence of COVID in humans...
It's deeper than just some untested trojan horse injection.. I wish it was just paranoia but the jab itself is just the spear head of something way more fucking sinister it feels.
Yea, the military is the testbed for crazy whacky govt ideas... That's for sure.
Idk how I feel about the segregation that's being reported for vaccinated vs un... I dont see it myself in day to day life... Most public spaces I've been have thrown caution to the wind and YOLOing the fuck out of "we have the vaccine, we're good now" and most aren't using masks and going back to life as it was before the whole covid thing.. I guess only time will tell who was really right. And my region is listed as a red zone... Gotta love those ultra conservative area types.. lol. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
And Biden just said he'd send 5k troops to Afghanistan... So who even knows what's goin on over there with the Taliban playing games with the world police.... Like at least wait til a full withdrawal of US troops before ya start stirring shut up again,... Makes no sense imo. But I don't know anyone in that area of the world to have a chat about with what's really going on, just what NPR plays on their bits with "people from the area" saying they want world support and bodies on the ground helping them fight back their local "terrorists"... Another loaded term, that nasty "T-word"... Humans need to just figure out working together to resolve shit, instead of flinging poo out of ever bigger cannons..
Everyone on hive all agrees on one thing even if they had flag wars on steem
We ain't injecting our bodies fuckin DNA chain with some fuckin crazy chimp semen mrna Pfizer code lol
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Yeah, a majority on here have seemed to avoid it, which isn't a bad thing in my opinion!
I say for the posterity of humanity, you go out of your way and get Covid.
If you come out all good. Then screw the experiment.
Likely already been exposed to it. I live with a person who is front lines in health care.
She's vaccinated, I'm not. It's quite likely that at some point in time I've been exposed to the stuff as she's done shifts in the COVID ward. Not terribly arsed about it. Been ill a few times since the outbreak supposedly occurred, but with one time almost certainly being food poisoning.
Lame excuse.
Seems you have access to it. Just go to the ward. No mask. No protection. No washing. No cleaning.
You are doing this for the human race.
For freedom.
Seems short sighted to infect myself only to then risk passing it on to someone else, when I can just live life as I have been and just not bother with any of it.