I very much enjoy the references and the intentions of the book and experiment, since these are the human dynamics that create the strongest communities where teachers and lifelong learners are an asset with abilities and tactics shaped by the wider group around them that they value.
That being said, I do have to wonder at the execution~ this feels a bit like the classic web2 style 'pickup artist neg' tactic of trying to goad a response by being flamboyantly inflammatory because those types of disingenous takes often drive views on traditional platforms. It will be interesting to see if it works in a space where people largely interact voluntarily and grow organically based on the relationships they develop through commenting on each other's work, shared interests, playing games together, or curating content into community feeds. The sweeping declarations and demands don't have an algorithm pushing them, so when you're new and have not many connections on a network it stands to reason some alternative, truly social tactics may end up being in order.
It sounds like, despite being seated across from me, you were in attendance at quite a different dinner! (I was at the one a group of friends winding down after a long last day didn't want to get on the blue chip yacht to party instead of.) We were happy to have you and some other new friends with us, and I recall shared tales of traveling to places like Croatia, personal interests, catching up with people we'd not seen in ages and getting to better know lovely people like cheeruphumanity, beers and philosophy... But very little discussion of Hive at all! Then again, we did have a good time with proof of schnitzel, so I guess you could consider that some big (hungry) mouths.
Otherwise, I'm glad you're popping in to take crack at things and will be interested to see if your chosen style will end up resonating. It isn't to my particular tastes, but the world would be quite boring if we were all the same~
Yeah I agree, I don't really like the approach, but am also interested to see if it works.
I wasn't at the dinner, not sure why I was tagged lol
It can not work if you chose to watch to see what others do. Social media works through engagement with what is offered.
Is sitting across from each other at a table not a personal relationship? Is an entire strategy that has been born out of listening to the peers on the table, that so far has taken several hours of effort, not a voluntary interaction? Is me reaching out to those again that were tagged in a previous post who ghosted me instead of commenting, not an organic approach from a newbie? While the ghosters, are just data points on a network?
Why is a call to action to follow me, so I can find out who my mavens are judged as 'flamboyantly inflammatory', when interaction is exactly what you propose is necessary? I am happy you want to see how this turns out. How do you expect to see it if you don't follow me, and I will be less flamboyant and tag you no more?
Methinks the lady doth protest too much~ genuine responses to genuine behaviour! No, tagging people you met in person isn't flamboyant, and the rest of the rhetorical questions dance around the crux of it in the same purposeful manner with the same dismissive attitude. Much as I responded to you on your last post, it's hinting at the slightly revisionist painting of an entire chain of thousands of people posting every minute as dead, useless and full of big mouth people from one dinner at the end of a long conference where a few community members were happy to have you along and didn't pin you down to lecture you. It reads a bit as though you feel a touch slighted because somehow the global audience on chain didn't notice you on one random first post looking down on them and the ways they build in interact. Much as with any other platform, shouting any message without working to cultivate an audience shouldn't be too much of a surprise in terms of the levels of engagement being below where you had hoped.
Where our paths diverge on the voluntary social actions and the way we build personal relationships is in the way we interpret and act on them. Pretending that saying 'hey follow me!' is the inflammatory part here is quite a purposeful framing and cop out. The hours spent at dinner for most everyone else seemed genuine hours of interpersonal interactions, not a task to be slogged through for effort credits surrounded by big mouths preaching Hive at you and stomping on your attempts to be heard. That's perhaps a subtle distinction, but for me is the one that matters, as trying to start a convo with you wasn't really recognized or welcomed- I won't speculate on the whys. However, sitting at your end of the table, speaking with two other non-Hive natives for the bulk of dinner about nothing to do with Hive at all, and being also around your convos with our other lovely new friend, the bits that you lean heavily on as a 'challenge'- how you had to leave to be free of the purported hard sell but also now expect an instant audience, don't really jive.
It's that sort of 'prove yourself to me' style of declaration, paired with a bit of aloofness and disinterest in speaking further (at least to me) that are now being repacked with slight insults to an entire platform of people who weren't at dinner and who aren't me, revised into a curious take designed to goad a defensive response. I guess for me personally that's a little bit bad faith, and doesn't give me much insight into who you are or what you want to build as a superstar. Where I bristle a bit has nothing to do with any interactions we did or didn't have, but is approaching a whole online network of people as if they're an extension of a few individuals and need to be... Shamed? Prodded? I'm not sure...into behaving the way you expect. Perhaps it's just tone or the lack thereof in writing, but I suspect a lot of it is improvisation the ways that most social media works, and it just happens to be one I personally like the least 😂
The things that do engage me personally and the way that I work around the chain are far from perfect, especially as I get more and more moved towards doing offline and off-chain work on the behalf of those who want to just use the online, on-chain space. What I value above all is kindness, curiosity, and personality. I do hope a post that is centered on those things about you is forthcoming, as those are the ways that we find the people in our tribes to interact with. The beauty of truely owned web3 is that you could happily proclaim that the dinner was on the moon and we spat in your food and you took a Ferrari to the after dinner rooftop date, and there will always be a place for you to say that. I can't ever stop you, and my identity and opinion mean nothing when it comes to you finding those that that style of posting resonates with, and that's specifically why I love Hive so much.
When I started here, I fit the definition of maven. Perhaps I still do. After 7 years in the web3 space, my path has ended up leading me to often doing unglamourous work, versus spending time building my personal brand alongside Hive's. Perhaps the choice is wrong, but that's also a struggle I've written about for years now and I still don't have the exact answer that's right for me. The more you learn and the more you fall in love with people, the harder you want to work for them. I suspect my maven balance will always teeter on that turning point, and after this year's work I plan to sit down and have a think on which makes me happier and has a better impact- being content creation centric, or taking on some of the things I love less because I love Hive more. Tough to say!
Now I pull my hat before you. The time and effort you take to drill into nuances of human behaviour and emotions does impress me. I do take away that I lost you at hello, and will still not quit. After all this is clearly an experiment, and I would only fail if I did not try. The beauty of life is, that time will tell what will remain, and what is just noise. I am noise for now, I am aware. Until that one maven comes that can change it all, not for me, for HIVE at large.