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RE: @Smooth, fuck off.

in Proof of Brain4 years ago

Have you looked at what content @smooth down votes? Have you looked at what content of his he up votes? I looked at his post most of which are his HBD stabililzer post, and all of them are 100% beneficiary to @hbdstabilizer , so he gets no curation from them and is basically burning hive.

When I see people mention and complain about his down votes, 90% of the time it is because rancho and haejin gave what he considers excessive rewards.

I see people commenting that he up votes his own comments, but that is pretty easy to check if a person takes the 12 seconds of time to do. (he doesn't that I noticed).

At the end of the day though when all is said and done, it is his vote and like you, me and everyone else on Hive he is allowed to vote how he feels, that includes down vote.

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Yeah, I'm selling my 20,000 HIVE and moving to THETA.

Why?

Because of the downvoting.

And not because I'm getting downvoted. I seem to be strangely NOT downvoted.

I'm dumping 100% of my HIVE because I've seen way too many unfair downvotes.

THETA is a vastly superior system.

Book marked and will take a look later today, on a quick review it seems to be mostly for video up loaders, but I do watch videos sometimes.

The "big deal" is that it's not "just a website".

THETA is a protocol.

It's a decentralized host that can be leveraged by any company, like a sort of decentralized AWS.

It could be used by NETFLIX to host their content.

It could be used by TUBI or HULU and it would save them tons of money.

One of the key features I like is that if I donate to a streamer, then my name gets shown on their homepage (just below the featured video) with the top ten ranked contributors.

Also, the streams are super-fast, much faster than odysee/lbry which are often very slow to start and sometimes glitchy.

https://www.theta.tv/video/vid55m5adnx551snx2h

it also has fully-integrated subscriptions (including switches for "subscriber only content") which puts PATREON out of business.

it also has fully-integrated NFT creation function, which lets you create your own NFTs for free.

AND it rewards you for watching videos.

It's an attention economy.

I will certainly be taking a look at it. If I can be paid to watch what I like then that sounds good.

and you can blog on both THETA and odysee/lbry.

ok, it looks like THETA has a 244 character limit (like twitter), so, a little annoying, but odysee/lbry does NOT have a character limit.

hell, i'll personally pay you to watch and or repost any of my vids!!

theta, odysee, lbry. Noted.

Thanks for the movie sample. While -of course- it's not sky-high-resolution & so on, I watched few pieces, tried seeking backnforth, it's pretty smooth and responsive. Definitely worth investigating. Many thanks again.

that clip is an old vhs transfer. to see some hi-rez, check out some of the gamer streams.

yeah, i only found out about it because i was researching storj and one of the articles mentioned World Poker Tour is using THETA to stream their events.

i couldn't believe it.

nobody's talking about this, and it's already live.

storj :D I remember this one when I researched and played with BURST and BHD and other proof-of-capacity coins (actually, a much more reasonable idea than proof-of-work). Thanks for pointing me to that https://ont.io/ even more to read and think about. Not today though, my mental batteries are too low now :)

awesome. thanks for taking a look. let me know if you find anything interesting.

Would I be welcome there? lol

AND, I'll even subscribe to your channel (if you make the fee reasonable)!!!!

....I've just signed up - cheers for that - I'll have look around tomorrow..sleeeeeep....

Awesome. Send me a link when you get a chance.

Thanks for taking the time to comment @bashadow. I did not know about his contributions to the stabilizer, what it is, or how exactly it works. If it's doing something good for the platform without hurting people in the process, then damn, that's a very commendable thing!

And you know what, technically speaking, you are correct. Because code is law, anybody can vote however they like, granted, this argument also supports the previous voting activities of rancho and haejin. It's their stake. They can vote however they want, right? And then that can get countered, and we can sit back and observe the shit show that is flag wars.

I'm not telling anyone how to vote in this post. I'm not in charge of anybody. I am, however, suggesting that people do right by their fellow HIVE authors. I am suggesting that they make this place a shining jewel that is the envy of all other platforms which promote censorship and control. When rewards get allocated to an account, they will get fulfilled unless there are downvotes.

When the downvotes happen, they effectively censor potential rewards from a post. You can see that YouTube is presently engaged in similar financial censorship. And this is causing youtube a mass exodus of quality content creators. There are so many good folks mass-migrating over to odysee.com now. Anyhow, again, thanks for your feedback.

I don't know. Maybe smooth is doing "altruistic game theory" for the betterment of the platform. However, he has to know that people came here with their human nature. And I don't know if re-wiring the minds of good content creators to get accustomed to the platform cucking them is such a good thing.

Yeah, it feels pretty cuck-like to put loads of effort into a post and then have the potential rewards obliterated because one guy is trying to null another guy's stake. I don't want to be a hive-cuck. I want this place to win. And the best way I can help make that happen is to convince people that we shouldn't be trolling legit posts that show true PoB.

Oh I don't know how much is altruistic on his part, I have my own difference of opinion with him on some of his voting down voting issues.

What I would like s to see the pop-up down vote box to come back only highly modified. I would do a heck of a lot more down voting if I could direct where my down vote went and for what reason. One more step in a down vote is not going to kill anyone other than down vote bots.

Down vote box pops up, 5 check boxes available. Pick one. Example:
Box one: Plagiarism (Author takes full hit of down vote)
Box two: Spam (Author take full hit of down vote)
Box three: Excessive rewards (Top five up voters take full brunt and receive no curation rewards).
Box 4 and Box 5 can be what others want, the three above are the ones I feel most strongly about.

Box three full explanation:
When people cast down votes the down voter if a whale has to be pretty careful as @smooth has been in trying to avoid reputation ruination. When it comes to reward pool abuse those individuals just as the spammers and plagiarist deserve what they get. So 50% of the down vote value for rewards and reputation should go on the top voter. The remaining 50% of down vote power should be split equally among the other four top voters. This will cause the small account trail followers to re-think who they follow vote trail wise. The author of the post would lose out on the reward amount but their reputation would survive intact and they would know it was not them that was down voted, just the top 5 or less up voters that were trying to play the system.

So far every time I have bought this up it has been shot down as that it would not work, or if we do that for down votes then we should have boxes for up votes, that argument does not fly, a down vote is used to counter a negative action and up votes are positive action. There are very few societies that do not differentiate between a positive action and a negative action, in other words people do not need to account for their positive action only their negative actions such as robbing a bank.

Down vote box pops up, 5 check boxes available. Pick one. Example:
Box one: Plagiarism (Author takes full hit of down vote)
Box two: Spam (Author take full hit of down vote)
Box three: Excessive rewards (Top five up voters take full brunt and receive no curation rewards).
Box 4 and Box 5 can be what others want, the three above are the ones I feel most strongly about.

I like that idea. It seems like a winner to me. I don't know about the mechanics or coding that'd be involved, but at least it promotes less destructive behavior.

Maybe a good reason to get rid of downvote function, then. Certainly not all of his downvotes are on rancho and haejin upvoted posts, I just got 2 downvotes in a row, neither had either of those whale votes. Even if he never upvotes his own content, this downvote pattern seems to be abuse of power, few users acting as reward police going around and punishing good content for getting a high payout (or for being anti-vaxx, it's hard to know for sure), when tons of other high payout posts by whales somehow don't get his downvotes. I've never been a fan of the downvote function, it seems to be abused for more than helpful to cut down on spam and plagarism (I and many others have also got hit many times for voicing dissenting views).

I've looked at several of his down votes and it is hard to see if any of them are really subject related. most of his large down votes are due to large up votes. One day my thought on the down vote will be adopted and people can see why they got the down vote whether it is for rewards, spam, plagiarism, or what people want to know. It's not hard it involves one more step on down voting but it is highly unlikely that it will be accepted or if it can even be coded, (which I believe it could be).

In your case it would seem the down votes were to counter up votes from @xeldal who seems to be a 100% manual voter when you look at the content he votes for. He votes in three ranges 100%, 50% and 20%, at least that has been what it seems for the last couple of days. Also his votes are spread out through the day unlike haejin and rancho who's votes are all completed within 1 to 2 minutes.

I am of the opinion that he is only voting to counter act what he feels are excessive votes. When he does down vote he seems to try to not wreck a person reputation, that to me shows he really is concerned with the reward pool system and with keeping things balanced.

wake up and smell the vaxtard agenda

I just scanned several pages of them, it seems majority are politically incorrect/independent journalism or conspiracy related, a good chunk are on recipe posts or related to natural medicine/healthy eating/gardening in some way, and a tiny minority on truly random posts that did not seem to fit any pattern. Many users in the independent journalist category are downvoted multiple times. Many of the downvoted posts are in fact not upvoted by haejin or rancho, although a good number are. This is what I noticed, seems to be a pattern to me, a pattern of the type of posts deemed to not be worth high payouts anyway - namely recipes and politically incorrect views. Those are my observations, I'll be putting a post together on the subject shortly...

couldn't disagree with your comment more but i'm not downvoting it...

Long comment stream, is there a particular thing about him that I am missing? I have looked at his down votes all seem to have at least three accounts in common on the up votes. I have seen him down vote a few food post, and a lot of crypto post also.

People all see different things when an accident happens right in front of them, that is why lawyers love eye witness accounts. I looked at all his down votes for the last 7 days, and while it can appear he is anti this or anti that, he seems to be more anti this person and that person and that other person

He downvotse anything that is against his agenda and bullies non approved content creators off the platform with big downvotes, never any explanations.

Vaccinations, eugenics, autism, coronahoax, agenda 2030...start there

I am not defending him, and I can see looking at his record those type post are about 1/4 to 1/3 of what he down votes. On the other hand 80% plus of his down votes have up votes from haejin, rancho and xeldal. A person would be very hard pressed to find a single down vote of his that went on an account post with out one of those three up voting the post.

I have seen down votes for political/life views from large accounts going both left and right side of the arguments. Down votes of that nature is because people are in fear that the view point they have been following might, just might be wrong, so they try to silence the voice. If it is excessive it does not matter what side of the track you are on, depending on how I feel at the time I some times speak out to the down voter. Does it help? Sometimes, twice that I remember the down vote was removed. I do not speak out much about how people vote, it is their stake and their choice.

So many of the big accounts downvoting are constantly damaging the platform and driving away users...many of my friends quit steemit because of it, and that is why I stopped using this account. Now I may start again to test out prob.

I just completed a post about my solution to the problem you are welcome to take a look and read or not. There is and has been a problem for a long time, one that will not be fixed until the people decide it needs to be fixed. So far I have seen very few solutions offered, just people offering to run away to somewhere else or wanting the down vote removed completely. Neither of those are real solutions. I hope a few more people post ideas on how to resolve the issue. As I state in my post HF 25 is almost done and HF 26 is coming up, it is time for people o think of solutions.

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