As many of you see, that the rules and ethics may differ in hive and other tribes.
Most of the active tribe members have a special account for a particular tribe !
That's a smart move. And I'll explain why. In the future, I'll do the same for sure !
So, even after spending so much time in hive, we have to learn everything about the tribe when we join it. And the way we act in hive could be not acceptable in a particular tribe. Something could be acceptable and even welcome in hive, but not acceptable and even maybe dangerous to do in a particular tribe. So, even if you reach a good position in the tribe, and you do very well, if you break the rule or the ethic of the tribe, you will not be supported that much. Sometimes I see rules and ethics are more important for people than any other useful thing you do. That's why to not waste your time on something else, do your best to learn about the ethics and the rules of the tribe. That could be the most important for a better start !
That order could be created by stakeholders or the team of the tribe. So, sometimes that's even undiscussable. You will have just to accept it. You may say that's the hierarchy that should be respected. Each tribe has a governance, after all. It's just like in open source world. I was reading yesterday about it. A developer told his story about how he started to contribute to it. And he revealed everything about that, including pros and cons. So, in case you are looking for complete freedom to do what you want, just create your own token and tribe and do it your way. Don't always complain about things you don't like, just say your opinion and give solutions you see, and it's up to the team or stakeholders and sometimes even the community to accept it or not. Or accept how a particular tribe work and grow in it, respecting the existing rules.
You may say, ''That's not a decentralization !''. I would say, that the decentralization means here mostly of not getting any governments of counties involved. The decentralization doesn't mean the absence of governance at all. Otherwise, how the leaders of any created project could fight the abuse, organize everything and generate income. No one will be able to work in a chaos. Any organization requires a system to apply. Especially if it's not tracked by the law. So, everything is built here on the trust of the members. That's always something we should emphasize.
I'm not a developer and not a contributor in an open source. But I'm a member of many communities and tribes where I mostly observe and experiment to learn. Sometimes I had even to learn it the hard way and may caused harm to myself. But that worth it. Try to follow everything I did to learn from my mistakes and to have a better path.
Crypto decentralization simply means taking away power from a single type of entity. Uh, not governments, but banks and "tax-free" megacorps. But there is always some form of governance anywhere you go.
Governments now control all those fields as well. So, by saying governments, I meant all those as well !
Eh, I can't see it that way. Governments are controlled by bankers and megacorps, not the other way around. I think having people blaming "governments" is something bankers and megacorps want you to do, so they can get away with their crap while politicians serve as sock puppets.
They are all related anyway. The main beneficiary is not the citizen for sure !
No doubt about it.
ANARCHY = NO KINGS
ANARCHY = DEMOCRACY
ANARCHY = NO PRIESTS NO PROPHETS NO OLIGARCHS
ANARCHY = NO "LEADERS" ONLY "PUBLIC SERVANTS"
ANARCHY = BLOCKCHAIN
ANARCHY = HOLACRACY
ANARCHY = TRANSPARENCY
ANARCHY = PROCRUSTEAN LAW
There are leaders though, they're just a lot harder to see. I.e, the main leadership behind BTC decided to turn keep things as they were, but people who opposed them forked the coin into BCH. Why did the opposite not happen? Why wasn't the BCH side of the fork keeping the original name of the coin? Because they were not the main group. The same thing happens with every coin. They always have their own leaders.
The idea is that everyone is forced to abide by the same set of transparent rules.
In BTC, that means that each miner gets to vote on what version they will run.
It also means that anyone can fork the chain if they want.
mining is centralized
how is mining centralized ?
I know someone who created a new account and was doing so well in a particular community, then one day, disaster struck
She ignorantly broke a rule, and the downvotes she got demoralized her, and she dish that account
It sounds good to have all the rules and governance as you say we should
But creating more than one account in order to stay abrass with the community rules can be very stressful
One cannot serve two masters at the same time l
100% THIS
they love to crush accounts for "copyright" and "plagiarism" and even "paraphrasing"
but then do nothing to stop copyrighted images in memes and gifs
and top accounts post movie reviews, which are basically 100% "paraphrasing"
"unoriginal content" is everywhere
Who is this guy? Dude, pay attention before you speak.
I didn't say she quit because she was angry
I used the word "demoralize" check it up. It is different
This guy thinks he is the almighty master of the universe. Believe me I keep getting downvotes from him, at first because I broke a rule, then because I upvoted my own posts, now even when I don't upvote my posts anymore, he keeps on hitting me with downvotes...
This is crazy
But don't get all worked up because of one person
There are many more lovely people in here on this space
Work your way around and find them
Once you do, you will be glad you did
Cheers
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Yep, people think decentralization means absence of rules, it’s very wrong, decentralization means people can come together to define the set of rules of behavior instead of one entity doing it...
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That's very interesting definition. So, the question is, do we have that now ?
It’s in progress
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ANARCHY = NO KINGS
ANARCHY = DEMOCRACY
ANARCHY = NO PRIESTS NO PROPHETS NO OLIGARCHS
ANARCHY = NO "LEADERS" ONLY "PUBLIC SERVANTS"
ANARCHY = BLOCKCHAIN
ANARCHY = HOLACRACY
ANARCHY = TRANSPARENCY
ANARCHY = PROCRUSTEAN LAW
Each communities has their dos and don'ts and rules governing each tribes.
One can either accept to be humble to learn from the members without breaking the rules or they face the consequences .
But then, what is the Why in creating special account for each tribe?
Is it majorly to follow what ever the tribe does? And if those things aren't in your favor you quit? I don't think i got your point with the title anyway.
I mean that not all the rules and ethings are the same in hive and each tribe. Each one has its own stakeholders, its own governance and it's hard to act the same when we create content from the same account. I think those accounts are created to not broke the rules of one tribe in case they are creating in an other. I still have only one account for all the tribes, but I think creating an account for each tribe could be maybe better for the growth in each of them.
Oh now I get your point and yes you are right.
But the stress of having to build each of those accounts hmmm.
It will be like neglecting one for the other.
Yeah, that's not easy to do, that's why I have only two. This one to create content and @dcooperation to build the community. I don't think that I will have time for an other one. But, I just shared my opinion about what's going on. You may say for an educational purpose.
I will make sure I denounce any of those tribes if I come across one, rules are for slaves, that of which I am not. That's an insult to my sovereignty to suggest a tribe wouldn't approve of me, they can take their opinion and money and shove it up their ass
For example to not spam and to create an original content, isn't that a rule we all respect ? There are ethics like to not self upvote as well, some are respecting that. I don't think that make us slaves, those are just things we do to not abuse the platform.
Yeah I can agree, but the sentiment of changing something about myself to appease the status quo made me throw up in my mouth a little. These slave drives can go back to facebook if they want to see what life is like with rules on social media.
What makes you a slave is needing the rules to live in a world without spam... The rest of us just know when to downvote a shit post.
Trust me, I'm fighting the plagiarims just like you do. You may see how many of that I reported in proofofbrain discord server. Many know about that, I even wrote a post about how to fight plagirism. I even downvoted many of them. I feel everyone responsable of what's going on here. But still there are things should be accepted. For example when ph community asked for beneficiaries to upvote people. Most of those posts were downvoted by stake holders. That's what make them live hive. That a rule they broke.
I think the discord groups for hive tribes are for conformists, everytime I enter a so-called "chat" I see repulsive self virtualization and virtue signaling, the same repulsive content that I left Twitter and Facebook to avoid.
Its good you do something about it, but I just use the silent treatment on bottom feeders, its much more effective then they cant play victim and try to blame you cause their little feelings are hurt.
I prefer to use my downvote to get rid of spammers. After reporting them to HiveWatchers and GuiltyParties, to make them stop posting and abusing the reward pool. They now even learned to hide their plagiarims by changing all the text. But, I have now experience to expose them. Usually they have new accounts and they write very long posts with very long titles. And when they reply to a comment, they don't seems know what they talked about in the post. It's even fun to do if someone is looking to fight abuse.
If you ever need help downvoting spam lmk but yeah there is lots for that already.
holy crap.
have you never heard of the mute account button?
MAKE YOUR OWN DISCORD: https://discord.new/BMdBzpnW5RBD
I did that about a week ago.
Anyone who either can't or won't provide reasons for their actions is, by definition, "unreasonable".
Unwilling to discuss and unreasonable are 2 different things in my books.
When something is of the quality of something I would find on the bottom of my boot, then I would discard of it immediately and with haste, having no intention to revisit the thought that didn't contribute to my quality of living.
They are functionally indistinguishable.
ANARCHY = NO KINGS
ANARCHY = DEMOCRACY
ANARCHY = NO PRIESTS NO PROPHETS NO OLIGARCHS
ANARCHY = NO "LEADERS" ONLY "PUBLIC SERVANTS"
ANARCHY = BLOCKCHAIN
ANARCHY = HOLACRACY
ANARCHY = TRANSPARENCY
ANARCHY = PROCRUSTEAN LAW
I'm reading now about Anarchy in wikepedia, I'm thinking how they deal with crimes. I mean real crimes, like killing, stealing, and other type of crimes that cause harm to others. I also don't like governments and what they are doing especially with the fakedemic they are creating and the fear they are spreding. But, I'm thinking how anarchists would deal with clear crimes in their society.
TRIAL BY JURY
ALGORAND has implemented a nearly perfect system.
Any transaction (not user) can only be flagged once.
When a transaction is flagged, 1000 random users are notified.
If a user fails to respond within the time limit, another randomly selected user is notified (this process continues until at least 600 votes have been cast).
60% of the jury must agree in order to cancel a transaction.
If 41% of the jury votes to uphold a transaction, then the transaction remains unaffected and is never "held-pending-trial" or any nonsense during the procedure.
There is a small dividend provided by the system for jury participation, and an additional small incentive for voting with the majority (if there is no 60% on either side, this additional incentive is not awarded).
ALSO HOLACRACY
Are there such people in real world ? Do they have a community or a place where they live and protect themselves from goverments ? For example someone like The Dollar Vigilante is also anarchist maybe. He's revieling so many secrets and facts and truth about what they are all doing. I guess he's protected somehow. I know many stories where people if say something against goverments could be put in jail or punished somehow. I usually watch his videos in lbry : https://lbry.tv/@DollarVigilante:b . I'm sure you know him.
I would like also to know if you like him or not and what's he's doing !
I would like to learn more about this movment.
I don't feel I have a secure future in Russia now.
I don't know if such people exist here or not.
I'm just learning and finding more and more frauds in the system we live. I need to do something about that before it's too late. Especially being against vaccination not trusting anything going on.
There are over 1000 corporations that have implemented holacracy.
I've watched some of his vids but I don't know the details of his "community".
I would imagine it's something very much like these examples,
AND,
https://tubitv.com/movies/516210/american-commune?start=true
What do you think about ALLATRAUNITES. They are also creating something like that, but I don't trust them that much. There are some confusions about them.
https://www.facebook.com/allatraunites.en/
They call it Creative Society and they have a kind of an intrnational communities and they always promised of big changes. Then I see nothing changed and goverments keep pushing their agenda.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmohunWoXmNj0ZAHt_idLEw
They look too positve for me.
I don't like those who looks like that and call people to join them. I've seen enough of such communities in my life. It's hard to trust them.
What's your opinion about them ? They seems pushing for interesting ideas , but I don't see the change in the world.
I think we need something else to stop the evil from spreading, experimenting on people, creating restrictions and everything.
The world need a big revolution I think.
And the sad thing that more and more people are brainwatshed !
YEP
100% THIS
I'm not sure if Russia has jury trials, but the concept was the original "safe-guard" against TYRANNY.
A Remedy for Legal Failure: Trial by Jury in Russia
https://geohistory.today/remedy-legal-failure-russia/
Ok, I understand the initial repulsion of "cult" groups, especially the overtly religious,
However, it's important to remember that you are already a member of a cult (cult-ure).
I try not to buy-into or reject any group 100% either way.
All you need to determine is if the group in question is "less-wrong" than the one you already find yourself in.
Here's another practical example,
You might find this interesting,
I find it difficult to grasp the idea of different accounts for tribes. I don't bother myself with it. One account. If I want I use the tribe's tag in my post. I normally keep it civil so I don't have to bother much with rules.
That's a good choise as well. Even me for now I have only @clixmoney and I just see how many people have each account for a particular tribe. Of course that may consume them a lot of time, but I don't have much of it. Especially being the founder of @dcooperation , the community I should take about now and create collaborations in hive !
I read your recent article and get that #dcc is more about the promotion of articles that we like than about putting the #dcc in our own article. Is that understanding right?
Yeah, promoting comments as well you liked. You may use the tag only if you are promoting a comment of someone else or his/her post and mentioning them. It's also cool to write at least what do you think at least in one sentence. That will exaplain why you liked a comment or a post. I mean only promoting others comment or post is allowing anyone to use the tag.
That way, more people will be promoted, more quality content upvotes and even curators when they look for a good content, they will just go to #dcc tag and find something there interesting to consume and the promoted posts or links at the same time.
If more people will do it, more will be interested in promoting others and more curators will support the content created on the tag.
It's a collaborative curation from all hive community and I hope the idea will be promoted very well, so the tag will be popular !
Okay, get that. A noble idea and endeavor indeed! 😃😃
I hope to see you sometimes creating such posts. The idea is for sure awesome and now we need some activity on it. I'll write about promoting comments later. Just didn't have much time. Because in the first posts I talekd only about posts. And I'm trying to curate those posts, I check #dcc everyday. So, for now I have about 33k hive power to use to support that. Maybe @starstrings01 also will support it sometimes. He seems very interested and he has also about 19k hive power to curate that. Maybe you join as well.
Curating is not necessary by the way. The most important to find people participating in it by sharing the posts and comments of others. I think if a few people start this, it will be already famous and we may create really a useful movement on the blockchain.
I don't have much time to curate, but I do go through few posts in the morning. When I do it, I will for sure tag #dcc if I like them. I hope that is fine to start with.