Hi @oldsoulnewb,
a refreshing view that you rarely hear, you offer.
I would go further and attest failure to all online platforms, the more global they are. Or a failure to appear to the masses in the first place. Why do I think that? Because "social" and "media" don't mix, or only in places where no one is really interested in making money in the first place, but in having fun or exchanging ideas or philosophising with each other or talking about - what do I know - fishing.
Anyone who comes here with the intention that the whole thing has to become as "big" as the role models FB, YT, etc., has not even considered why people go anywhere in the first place: Because they are well entertained and have fun. Making money would be one thing, like a potential in the background, something that comes about rather by chance, but not because you want to bang the door down already.
A business that succeeded was not run by someone who was desperate to get rich doing it, but by someone who tried something, was curious or enjoyed what they were doing. Of course, there are always idiots who steal a good idea and the whole thing initially runs successfully, but the idiots then manage to ruin it.
That's why I see it like you: the masses ruin it because the masses, due to experience and the existence of the big channels, have become accustomed to something that can be seen critically: a Roman thumbs-up and thumbs-down culture that in real Rome was probably only practised in the Collosseum, but not in the minds of global citizens (... but ... when I think about it, it probably WAS, lol).
The many clashing cultures and also life experiences of the people here on Hive and elsewhere make understanding difficult. But if one's livelihood depends on it (or one imagines that it does) or if making money comes first, cooperation is even more difficult or impossible than it already is under real conditions in the real world.
Why should one trust anyone here at all whom one has never seen, never smelled, never shaken hands with and whose real name one probably does not know? So you don't trust anyone.
It's a really strange thing to want to do business this way. So I think you can only become a fool showing a funny nose to the self-appointed gentlemen :)
but basically I'm not a friend of the internet. HaHa! For a while it's interesting, inspiring, lively and so on. But once you've spent a few hours in the garden, it puts things into perspective.
Yeah, Facebook has people expecting that a website should simply let them upload thousands of hours of videos and thousands of photos each month or each week. Imagine millions to billions of people expecting this to be the norm. Well, all of that costs money. And yet, people somehow were CONDITIONED and PROGRAMED to believe all of that can be and must be totally free. Yet, all of that costs millions to billions of dollars.
I like what you are saying and some of my favorite memories on the Internet were made on like forums, message boards, MySpace, YouTube before 2010 back when they still had video comments, and also Facebook back in like 2006 back when they still had a friend tree or web showing you a map of how you are friends with this person who is friends with this other person and so on and so forth, that was cool. AOL, You Got Mail.
It is also deceptive, this "free to use an online service" slogan, isn't it? Somewhere, the generosity of the founders must generate a long-term source of money so that many come together and the forum gains value through the users. So it's not really a one-sided provision of a service, but it's through the users of that service that the business gets its shape, weight and power. No, it's not free, of course, and the best currency for platforms like FB and YT is user data and profiles. So it's not free, you can't say that. So the business model is clear, isn't it? And yet it's strange how little people seem to care ...
When the space is small, without the masses, as it were back in the days of the beginning, I agree, there come memories. When things are not clear, not determined, not directed, not so much ruled, when the space is free to roam and to explore, it's the best times.
The talk here on hive "how to get the masses on board" seems un-intelligent to me. At least, if you want to be smart, you pretend you have a really cool club where not everyone can get in. But that would also not be my cup of tea. If it's not for real, it's just advertising.
Greetings to you :)
Yeah and you know what they say, when a service is free, it could mean you are the service, Facebook makes money selling data to governments, corporations, etc. I believe in encouraging people to join Hive just like I would encourage people to eat healthy and other things too and we all know many people may not always make the best of choices. In other words, it is not like every human is always going to make the best choice and being on hive is a better choice.
I leave the encouraging people to come here to others. I did that in the beginning, but stopped. Either it grows over time by itself and what I so far invested or it does not. I do not care so much, though I enjoy to talk to people here and to practice my debate skills. It's like my daily habit to open up hive and to see what's up.
Have a good day. :)
Yeah, I don't talk about Hive to people a lot and sometimes not at all. My Facebook has a link for those interested in checking out Hive. Yeah, debating skills is kind of like swimming.