To an extent, I can see the point of such downvotes. Double-dipping on different forks has been frowned upon by many since the break from Steem. I personally would use Blurt more like Twitter, and retain HIVE as a long-form content platform. I think we have much bigger abuses to worry about first, though.
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Steem/Hive has been sold as a censorship free or censorship resistant platform.
Censorship has somehow been redefined by the people here to only mean "deleted" which is simply untrue.
If you look up the definition of Censorship you will see it means "suppression" and not "deletion". That is THE defintion in the dictionary. Somehow people here made everyone think this place is censorship free, downvotes are built into the protocol and that suppresses a post or comment when downvoted. Censorship is built into the protocol.
If you take a few steps back and look at Steem/Hive as the system it is, it has censorship built in. Now is all censorship good or bad or inbetween? Certainly some can be good, for an example of someone just posting graphic nudity under the tag of #news or #politics that obviously has no place there, or someone making posts that are garbage and says "asldkfjaw0r9aw0er9a w0r9 ajw0r9 aj09f jasd0fja w0e9rj a0werja 0wer9j " that would be worthy of a downvote as it is SPAM, etc.
Suppressing someone's post because they have the most minor of wrong things in it is not a correct action to take, ESPECIALLY zeroing out the post.
I see in your bio it says you are an anarchist so I would think you would be more aligned with what I am saying, no?
Is a Reddit downvote also censorship? No. Any system of voting can be abused. That is why I distrust democracy as much as oligarchy and monarchy. But despite the flaws, I think our system can work. The blockchain is supposed to be immutable regardless of votes, after all. But yes, downvote abuse has been an issue since long before HIVE forked from STEEM.
Yes it is, suppressing content. Definition of censorship = suppression. Reddit downvote is censorship.
I'm not sure why keeps getting hung up on the actual defintion. Just use the real defintion and not what you think the defintion is.
Disagreement is not censorship.
I'm not going to argue about this.
A reddit downvote makes a comment or post lose visibility. I've bee. downvoted on reddit a d my comments get pushed down and eventually enough causes them to be hidden, same with posts. So yeah, downvotes suppress content on reddit.
You're factually wrong on the definition of censorship and it's your duty to admit you are wrong, if you are interested in the truth that is.
https://www.aclu.org/other/what-censorship
Again, censorship does NOT mean deleted, it DOES mean suppression.
Censorship, the suppression of words, images, or ideas that are "offensive," happens whenever some people succeed in imposing their personal political or moral values on others.
Downvoting something IS suppressing it.
I dont understand how people cant just accept that this is what censorship means. Why dont you just admit you were mistaken when presented with the evidence? You're just wrong, and arguing with me that you're not let's others see you dont think words have meaning i guess? So you're arguing with what all dictionaries say? Is it an ego thing?
Idk what else to say man.
Fist, you say downvoting is suppression of speech. I don't think you can really support that assertion. Then, you leap from downvoting being suppression to suppression being censorship. I don't think you can really support that, either.
I downvote a lot of copy/pasted porn spam from a handful of users. I can't prevent them from posting it. I can't prevent anyone from tipping their posts our counter-voting my downvotes. Even if their reputations fall below 0, the content is still there. Further, HIVE isn't the only platform for speech.
Steemit is still around, but there, we faced actual censorship as blocks were altered and the frontend blocked access to content Sun didn't like. That kind of real suppression doesn't happen here. We want our blockchain to be immutable.
Blurt is experimenting with a downvote-free system. We'll see if it works better. HIVE was built the way it works intentionally. Maybe it isn't the best option in the long run. We'll see. But claiming it is "censorship" when you dislike how it works isn't really an argument.
I don't know much about LBRY, but they do have another system entirely separate from ours. Maybe it's better.
My point is:
The dictionary definition of censorship is suppression. I'm sorry that you dont like that fact, you can go do a quick search and check out the top 10 results for "define censorship" and you will see it says suppression.
Upvoting a comment or post gets it more views, it promotes it.
Downvoting it gets it less views, to downvote something is to censor it(suppression).
I agree with downvoting(censoring)spam plagiarism and content calling for direct violence.
Please do not continue to reply that censorship and suppression are different, if you say that back to me again after I showed you proof, then I know I'm dealing with someone who is trying to gas light me.