This conversation is none of my business, but... didn't any of you want to downvote this>? If so would it meet the criteria of any of the rules? What if the person posted it after every comment?
Again none of my business, just food for thought.
It's good to see brainstorming and communities are a great test ground.
Hey, thanks friend. If the current proposal was active, I would NOT be able to just DV it without some consensus.
Thanks for bringing that up.
You bring up a potential problem as well, so thanks for that. Between HW and HDR, I've been building a list of activities where DV'ing may not fall within trost's proposal. Plagiarism was the easiest to introduce as it's what I've been working with the last couple of weeks, but there are others.
I'll tell you though, this fraud stuff is a slippery slope even when dealing with plagiarism. It's why I've been adding the source links and text comparisons to the posts I've DV'd.
It's a complicated game. I think it will be interesting to watch.
Definitely interesting. The plagiarism part of the proposal I feel is working well. People report suspicious activities and they either DV themselves or tag me so I can do it. If I need help I go to Pob, HDR, or HW.
I would downvote this but to prove a point dating back to 2016 I don't do downvotes - I insult them instead...
It's a tough issue. I was very pro downvote, until they were free and abused.
It's not that tough...downvoting killed steemit, it will kill hive, and unless pob stops it, it will the whole blockchain...
Steemit wasn't killed the stake was purchased and there is very little downvoting there, but still some. It is still alive, but trying to find a meaningful post or engaged user is tough. Maybe you should visit, to see, the impact.
I saw the conversation and I think it is great. However, personally I am unlikely to read a complicated rule book to enjoy a tribe.
I do agree that the over-zealous downvoters are ruining the spirit of free-market principles and stagnating the growth, many of them are unskilled in terms of meaningful contribution and it gives them a pretend thing to do. For others it is just power.
I admire the brainstorming, and I get what you are trying for.
Here is another Point. Peers downvoting peers is very rarely a big problem. An angry exchange and it's over. It's when 1 or 2 big accounts attack that really causes problems.
Just my point of view.
the way downvoting killed steemit was that it drove all the people who refused to stick to the agenda off the platform - and that was over 90% of my friends - you are one of the less than 10% that remain, and you know yourself that you play by the rules!
they weren't all downvoted off the platform, but more than 20 of them were (plus 4 of my own accounts that were rendered unusable) and the others were so pissed off watching the shitshow that they just quit
if i decided to put my liquid hive, as i power down my accounts, into pob i could easily become a major stakeholder, but after 5 years of watching total corruption on the blockchain I wouldn't put that much money into it again. how much i invest in pob is dependent on how this downvote power struggle plays out.
Ive been on my best behavior on hive, but even so have copped some big downvotes on my alt accounts, and while living vicariously through lucylin's posts has been good, if we lose this battle i'll probably give up being a hive investor and go midwit hunting too :)
I stay out of most of the politics and I have very little invested at this point. I do love to talk about crypto and feel friendship with many.
So, I do hear your point. The whole idea of 2nd layer solutions is exactly what is happening here. So, I appreciate the ideas you guys are testing, trying and discussing.
the second layer only works if we can rid ourselves of the accounts trying to control the content and take all the rewards, and it's already very clear on pob where that threat is coming from - for me this is an experiment playing out - if I have to keep beating around the bush because accounts I am not allowed to name will downvote me, then I'm not on a free platform - the moment i get out of the cage i'll stop beating around the bush - we all know who is screwing the platform, but don't dare say in public...
Odd how none of the accounts so keen on downvoting to stop abuse ...lol...did anything about this one...