people have become sort of have reached our limit with this fake it till you make it, sanctimonious culture and tech. It was really refreshing for me to have you interview some of the biggest names in the industry like Elon Musk or Mark Zuckerberg and to actually have you give a much more raw, honest impression of their messaging, their products, their pitches, etc. And I want to ask you about what your experience of some of those people was like. But I'm going to hold those questions off for the second half of our conversation, Rory. For anyone who is new to the program, Hidden Forces is listener supported. We don't accept advertisers or commercial sponsors. The entire show is funded from top to bottom by listeners like you. If you want access to the second part of today's conversation with Rory, as well as the transcripts and rundowns to this episode and every other episode we've ever done, head over to hiddenforces.io and check out our episode library or subscribe directly through (36/38)
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