mountains of Wyoming or Colorado. I can't remember where. And it's also interesting that even up there, and there's a whole history to this, there was apparently some kind of construction happening near his cabin. And he realized basically there was no way that he could get away from all of it. They could have been you, Ben. You could have been doing construction, you had a high rise. Listen, Ben, it was great having you on. I appreciate you coming on. Thanks so much, Brad. I had a great time talking with you. Thank you. Yeah, all right. And that was my episode with Ben Friedland. I want to thank Ben for being on my program. Today's episode was produced by me and edited by Stylianos Nicolaos. For more episodes, you can check out our website at hiddenforcespod.com. And the conversation through Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram at hiddenforcespod or send me an email at dkat hiddenforcespod.com. Thanks for listening. We'll see you next week. (43/43)
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