people aren't told almost anything. Okay, one day the New York Times ran one page about it, said it didn't work. But my God, if you try to overthrow another government, frankly, I'd like the American people to understand. That's how Syria got into such a prolonged chaos. And then what happened, by the way, which is par for the course, after several years, Russia came in on the side of Assad. And when Russia came in, we attacked Russia for meddling in the internal affairs of Syria. So it's called gaslighting. It was pure gaslighting, purely phony. And that I happened to know because I knew people very much involved in the whole episode. I heard an earful about the U.S. machinations during that period. So again, we're not going to have a chance to get into any of that. I wish, again, I hope that I can convince you to come on to talk about all of that. There's another book I want to recommend for listeners. It's called Active Measures by Thomas Rid. And it only came to me now because (35/45)
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