This makes me laugh and about time. The DHF has been completely unaccountable the entire time and has been a bleed. I'm also tired of getting the begging and pleading messages asking for votes for a DHF. If I wanted to support it I would. The ninjamine should have been been put to a key set and then burned/erased/deleted and forgotten about, this using it is bullshit.
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Several users (~36) besides the Founders mined Steem tokens. The Founder's stake that became the DHF is not the entirety of the ninjamined stake that today rules Hive. That ninjamined stake remains the possession of whales that control the witnesses with it, and govern Hive, and the DHF does not vote.
Yeah I was trying but couldn't "read the code" as I was told so wasn't able to mine at the origin. I'm still a bit annoyed by it to this day.
Any idea which whales got the ninjamine? I thought that was the whole thing with the take over and freezing those funds Ned was trying to move. I still think they all should have been fully burned and keys destroyed so it wouldn't be hanging over the chain forever.
It was the stake Ned and Dan had pledged would only be used for supporting development, and would not be used for governance or curation. Dan left and Ned ended up with it. Selling it to Sun was not using it for development, and it was used for governance, with a vengeance. This is the stake that became the DHF. The few dozen others that did manage to parse the code and spin up stake might be sorted here. I don't know. I never looked. Some of them may have 10's of thousands of alts today, and what has become of that mined stake may be difficult to sort out after being routed about from alt to alt.
The basic issue is that ~36 accounts held the majority of stake when Steem went public, and ~36 accounts hold the majority of stake today. Whether that's the same stake or the same users isn't something I ever tried to find out, and it would probably cost more to ascertain than Hive has market cap. I'm not even sure it would be possible, because it could have been moved off platform and back on chain from time to time, and what happened to it off chain will remain a mystery.
There was a hiccup at one point after mining began, when Steem, Inc. shut it down. The claim from Steem was there was some technical problem and all the mining to date wouldn't work, so they needed to restart mining. Then they restarted mining, and after they'd mined ahead a ways, they let others join in. Some folks refer to that head start as the ninja part of the mining, but I consider all the mined stake similarly advantaged, particularly because that stake of Steem, Inc. mined ahead was pledged to not be used for governance or curation. Others that were involved said that the initial mining began to favor miners besides Stinc, and that's why it was shut down and discarded, because Stinc was determined to have enough stake to maintain control of the platform if something went awry.
At least, that's my recollection from reading the posts and comments regarding those events.