Certain Strange Things Happening on Hive Right Now...

in LeoFinance2 years ago (edited)

I ran into a few things today that are not ordinary on Hive lately.

If you check your Holozing website, the rewards page, you might see something like this, with your numbers, of course:

Note there are 0 delegation rewards although I have some HP delegated to Holozing from my posting account. I didn't claim my staking rewards on purpose for a while, so they aren't claimed.

They are aware of the issue as you can see from the discord server:

The issue affecting Holozing might affect many others since other services probably rely on hivesql.

From what I can say, starting this morning all websites of arcange are timing out, so hopefully he is working on this problem or someone with a dirrect line to him let him know of it. I let him a comment on a post, but I can't connect with him otherwise since we are not friends on discord. Edit: I didn't notice from the screenshot I included from discord that arcange is aware of the issues, but has no ETA on when they will be fixed.

Hopefully, things can get in working order soon because otherwise, we will see many strange behaviors throughout the ecosystem until people realize hivesql is not working properly.

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HiveSQL is widely used by many apps and scripts, and unfortunately, we don't have a backup option, yet... With some changes in HIVE, we could have more stable solutions soon...

With some changes in HIVE, we could have more stable solutions soon...

Want to elaborate? 😀 Is it about HAF and HAF-based apps, or something else at the base layer?

Yes, I was thinking of HAF... HiveSQL is great, but it kills the idea of decentralization...

That is rather concerning, Adrian.

I realize that @arcange manages a lot of projects, but having the database down could be a real problem.

I assume that data is still being received on the database and should be seamless to re-initiate.

It makes me wonder how ready we are for "Prime Time."

Thanks for the information, @gadrian

I assume that data is still being received on the database and should be seamless to re-initiate.

I don't know what the problem is. The "no ETA" part makes me think he either hasn't isolated the problem yet or it's not up to him to fix it (like hosting).

Centralized things can fail. We all know that. These are some services offered by arcange to the ecosystem that are not backed up by others like nodes are at the blockchain level.

It makes me wonder how ready we are for "Prime Time."

Many things can go wrong, no matter how ready or big you are. But many good things can happen too.

It sucks to hear that HiveSQL was offline, but I think that should be solved soon enough I think.

It's not solved yet. Seems to be a serious matter or something that takes a long time to be resolved. Apps/scripts that use it should search for alternative options, where possible. Holozing fixed their issue by not using hivesql at all.

I don't know if this has happened before, but hearing about it now is a bit concerning. I have worked in IT Databases and production issues are a big deal. From my understanding Hive itself didn't encounter a problem, but that Arcange's HiveSQL did. Hive apps are using this, maybe to get user account data, and are affected. I think being too dependent on one service is dangerous, and it would be nice if there are other options to point to if this happens again.

It happened before, and yes, multiple options are desirable.

Since all his sites are down (or timing out), I wonder if this isn't a hosting/infrastructure issue and something that may take some time to fix.

I wonder if HAF-based services are an alternative solution.

I just saw an update in the Pinmapple discord, and it seems more serious than a simple downtime:

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I think that's not good enough. Check it out

I strongly believe it is a temporary issues that will be resolved very soon

So as this issue not to prolong and cause a lot of things more, I hope it is been resolved soon