If you have been following my blog, you are probably aware of the Hive Wallet Social Experiment that was started this week. It was planned to end in seven days but teams were eager to get the wallets unlocked and obtain the funds and were successful in unlocking wallets in three days. Some were able to finish the task in a day and the latest it took was three days.
This social experiment was about playing a game and having fun. While dosing so, participants would be able to network with other Hive Bees, and in most cases people they have never interacted with. Also, they would be able to explore the powerful technology we have here that is Hive wallet. It was a fun game to play but also and educational endeavor, I hope will be useful in the future for those who participated and those who followed the progress along.
Hive wallet is truly unique in crypto space and everyone who masters how keys work can responsibly keep their accounts/wallets secure. To read more on this feel free to read the experiment announcement blog I wrote or just explore the wallet.
What we learned from this experiment is that there are different ways of using the Hive Wallet. Some preferred PeakD front-end over the HiveBlog. I personally default to HiveBlog for unknown reason.
Initially, the experiment was only about unlocking one newly created account/wallet and funded with 50 HBD - @hivegiftcard. There is a reason I named it giftcard. I have some ideas to reuse the giftcard account in the future for a different purpose.
The idea of the experiment was to split the private active key into five pieces and send them out to five Hive Bees who showed interest in participating in the experiment. They would have to figure out a way to cooperate to unlock the wallet and obtain the funds.
However, many more than five people showed interest in participating. Only picking five out of 20 interested didn't seem right and actually felt like a great opportunity to have a bigger experiment. This lead me to create @hivegiftcard2, @hivegiftcard2, @hivegiftcard3 accounts funded with 50 HBD each so that everybody who showed interest could participate. Why not? This is fun!
We ended up with 4 teams of 5 with designated wallets to unlock. Some teams were faster than others. But it was never about the speed. It was more about networking and using various wallet key features. It was amazing to watch teams working together. Feel free to read through the comments in original post and the update posts.
All participants were able to use private memo keys, some had initial issues but figured out very quick with the help of teammates. After they were able to read encrypted messages, they figured out how to communicate them to each other. Some chose the blockchain and experimented with sending encrypted messages to each other, some used PeakD Beechat, and other discord.
Then, they had to figure out the amount combination it would take putting the pieces back together and finding the correct private active key. The number was 120.
One team even utilized automating, another team used excel spreadsheet, others used different methods. But all were able to get the all 120 combinations.
There were no rules. In fact I specifically stated it was ok to trick the teammates and steal the funds. lol. Just to make it more interesting and see how trust would work. Unfortunately :) all participants ended up being trustworthy and nobody ended up stealing all the funds and they all shared.
Last part of the experiment was - "Double or Nothing". I offered participants and teams to decide if they want me do another experiment with doubling the prize amount. For that to happen they had to send the 50 HBD back my account. Then I would double it to 100 HBD and restart the experiment. However, the catch was that there was no guarantee initial participants would be selected.
None of the teams decided to risk going "double or nothing". Nobody sent 50 HBD back. If they did I had a plan to make it even more interesting.
If all or any team took this option, I was going to double the prize and have as many teams depending on the interest shown. But the difference would be all teams would compete to unlock the same wallet. So, whichever team got it done faster would win.
There was a potential that this next round would have 400 HBD if they all returned the funds. That would cost me a lot more. So, part of me is grateful that they didn't. :) lol.
Another great thing about this experiment was, as we can see happen on Hive all the time is that some other Hive Bees also like the idea and contribute to the prize pool. @soyrosa and @selfhelp4trolls were super generous and increased the prize pool by 55 Hive. Thanks a millions!
Thank you everybody who participated. You are the reason Hive is awesome. Thanks to everybody who followed the experiment. You are the reason Hive is a success.
Another great thing about Hive wallet is that, some private keys can be shared for various purposes. But once that purpose is fulfilled, the owner of the accounts/wallets can reset the keys. I will be resetting the private keys to all four giftcard accounts shortly, and those private active keys used to move the funds will become useless. There are many use cases for such features in the real world. Not many crypto wallets can do that.
For example, these accounts/wallets can be used as giftcards as they are named and as soon as funds are cleared keys can be reset automatically, refilled with more funds to be reused as giftcards again.
This was an awesome and fun experiments. Thanks again!
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I just paid 10.70€ for three drinks, cheers to you!
Jokes aside, for some people 10$ seems to be the money. I went into the experiment with the default opinion that we'd all send the funds just back to you... oh boy was I wrong!
Our team had a quick survey on that topic and the majority voted for plunder and share the bounty. Surprise, Surprise mf, 10$ are 10$.
Still, I had fun and I wonder what would have happened with teams of 10 or 20 people. What's, again and again, shocking to me (speaking as an @neoxian who migrated to matrix chat), the extreme dependency and the automated reflex to pull conversations to discord. It would have been unbelievably interesting to observe the In-Team talking in a comment section, or if people really feel better in a private room - there's BEE Chat. Discord is not a friend, it's a useful foe of my freedoms.
I tried to keep the communication of our team primarily on-chain via coordination posts and comments (Team 3). But we used also Discord, but not Bee Chat (nobody answered). Hive was the least common denominator so to speak. The disadvantage was that the chat was not private and other teams could follow our progress too, but we did not compete against other teams in this game so that was ok. Transparency also helps against corruption. If everything was anonymous and hidden, it would be easier to cheat. Similar like in RL ;)
I've seen that and found it to be very impressive in terms of leadership. I posted my Excel sheet to simplify the try-error work even faster than it was debugged because I believe in the same principles and it was the community who helped me fix a thinking error I had with it. Worth to noticing the member was not part of my team, while my team was sleeping on that error - at least at that time and space :))
If we ever want to succeed your limitations of the last 5000years+ years of somewhat reconstructed human history, we have to stop working all by ourselves against each other. Let's work together to overpower each other, good rivalry, not warfare.
Doubling the funds for another experiment would be great. I am kinda glad that didn't happen lol. Would have cost more HBD. But I did have better experiment ideas. Maybe I will still do it in the future.
What is matrix chat? I do miss chatting in Neoxian club. I still use discord. I don't think microsoft bought it yet. Did it?
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https://matrix.org/ we're using the Elements App for our Splinterlands and general chat. The problem with Discord is, that they sell you out and their censorship is actually very striking, once you caught attention your just toast. They banned all channels that posted Q-Anon MEMEs, de-platformed Wall Street Bets and a single admin can just drop your whole thousands of ppl channels without checks and balances. You can't rely on that.
Considering the Game,
I guess you can see it that way, "I am kinda glad that didn't happen lol. Would have cost more HBD." but even @theycallmedan and @starkerz talked about this on their show. I think it was just great. Adding time pressure would have been stupid because you alienate the targeted audience and make it rather geek-friendly. It took a full day for every team member of my group to even read the latest chat responses. Time Zones are a real thing. But as stated in my last comment, groups of 20 people would have guaranteed some serious action. Just keep it on a level where communication is key and not scripting and logic.
I did listen to the podcast. Yes, it was nice that talked about the game too.
I love that each team was honest and shared ❤️ In my opinion, that really says something about the type of people on Hive 🙌
Thanks again for doing this ❤️❤️❤️
Indeed. I agree, honesty is precious.
Thank you participating. I really appreciate it. It was fun. You tagging more people to come join made it even better.
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It was my honor :) Some others I have talked to have expressed interest in doing one of your challenges should you try again :)
This is an absolutely beautiful example of the Hive community - one for the records!
Yup, absolutely. Thank Your @soyrosa for encouragement and increasing the prize. You are awesome!
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It was both fun and educational to participate. Communication was the big challenge and also trust of course. Glad you extended the game to 4 teams. Would be interested to hear more from the team who automated the key search.
Thank You for participating @vikisecrets. You were the integral part of the team to make it happen. It was awesome to watch teams figuring out how to solve it.
Automating does make things faster and easier. Knowing a little bit of python, I can say that this could have been solved in less than 5 minutes if all pieces were available. :)
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I really wish to participate next time
I hope to do another one sometime. Thank you for following.
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Thanks a lot for the opportunity. For some good reasons I trusted that no one would be greedy enough to want to keep all the money to theirselves. Hive has a beautiful positive community
100%. Thank you very much.
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It was an interesting one.
I didn't get to join though.
Maybe if they had returned the fund and a new experiment is sent out, I would have picked a team and joined the fun too.
It's all good though.
😊
Yes, if they did, I had plans for a more interesting one. :)
I will probably do one anyway in the future.
Thank you.
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That was a cool challenge and I'm glad I worked out. Your other idea for the double or nothing rounds would have been interesting. Sometimes it better to just take the sure bet though.
Yes, sure thing seems like is more important. I will do more interesting one in the future, hopefully. Thank you @leaky20. Still need to come up with one to get you involved. :)
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great experiment. Unfortunately I noticed too late. would also have liked to take part.
I hope to done another one in the future. I hope you will participate.
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So cool experiment and regret that i couldn't join in it lol I laughed in the parte when you say:
Hahaha so hilarious, it surprised me as well this kind of activity should be carried out more often lol I'm really into your idea and I get exactly what you want to do, of course we also got a huge amount of fun.
Do you think that if the key had been divided among more users the results would have been the same?
The more people the bigger risk
😂
Anyways, I'll stay tuned 💪
lol, yea part of me wanted to see a sneaky move by someone. lol. Just because it would be funny. But it is great to see honesty among all.
If the key was divided to more than five pieces, it would be impossible for teams to put it together in seven days.
It was designed so they could do it if worked together as a team.
I guess programmatically higher difficulty could be solved in seven days too. But I wasn't expecting programmers to participate.
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It's nice to see everyone was trustworthy. I did see the post but 5 people already replied so I didn't bother trying to join in.
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Shame on you. lol. You should have. :)
Maybe next time?
There is still so much interest, I may need to go do some work to get some sponsors to make this a bigger game. :)
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Oh my God I love this so much! It gives me back trust in the human kind <3
And this one is very common:
Because this is how we as being work, it's much easier for somebody not to take a win than to accept a loss.
Thank you for the experiment, I really believe it brings value to the platform!
Thank you. I agree with your completely.
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Thanks again @geekgirl for organizing this, and for your generosity with letting me into the party a little late lol :)
I had a great time with this, and pretty sure everyone else did as well.
Can't wait to see what you cook up again in the future! :)
Thanks @soyrosa and @selfhelp4trolls as well for your generous contributions to this social experiment :)
Thank You @futuremind.
What a fabulous experiment, which I have come across late but after seeing it reblogged by @wrestlingdesires. Not sure I have anywhere ner enough knowledge to have taken part but it would have been great to follow along. !PIZZA
That is why you dont play poker anymore ...you are playing with wallets .
This is not clear , what about if we do not master how keys work ?
Hive wallet is truly unique in crypto space and everyone who masters how keys work can responsibly keep their accounts/wallets secure
Hi @opidia!
I do need to play poker more often. It is always fun at Hive Poker League.
You are right, getting to know how keys work give peace of mind that funds are safe.
Not caring much about learning how private keys work may create risks of leaking them by mistake.
Hence my question in discord , will QR codes be implemented soon .
Could be a good idea for keys issue .
There are already QR codes for Hive keys. You can download a pdf file of all of your Hive keys from your wallet. They have QR codes too.
How cool thanks for the info
That's good. Who knows if they will return the HBD. Because I believe they have won that one. You have to put More for the next game, just forget that one as there winning prize.
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Interesting results.
Indeed.
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Hmmm. This is way more interesting than i thought. I'm still watching
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