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Well, I do think CUB is Defi and I know that not everything is full decentralized. I do think it's getting there and HE has it's own witnesses now. I tend to believe that more as I trust the team behind LEO more than some random project online.

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It’s called DeFi but is is really decentralized I mean. Like how is it “getting there” ?
Cub as far as I know isn’t decentralized. Might still be a ok project but I don’t see how it’s not centralized. These tribe tokens are ultra centralized. I just see the De-Fi label being used everywhere and there some of the most centralized projects around.