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RE: Why Hive Is Failing.

in LeoFinance3 years ago

Hi! Well, I felt the need to set the record straight, I haven't really curated for about a year at least as I have been focusing more on content creation, and administration for Curangel which is a curation project started and created by @pharesim.

I also don't share the sentiment on this pending doom sensation you have about Hive. There are plenty of things that have improved since 4 years ago with many exciting projects and games being built that are not even released yet but will be soon. Those very same investors you pointed out are still around because they see a potential and because they are busy building even when it has not been publicly announced and for a good reason. I remember how everyone was waiting for SMTs and how they would come soon and then never did. It is better to have something ready before announcing to the public and then face the scrutiny of not meeting the deadlines or that the moon is not coming because of them.

Curation these days is even more decentralized than it used to be, since now stakeholders are incentivized to curate themselves by having the best return that way. Of course, there are some bigger stakeholders who just cast their votes on whatever is on the trending page because they have no time or interest in finding content themselves or they don't feel they would get back the same return by delegating to curation guilds to distribute stake for them.

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Hey @m31! I hope you are doing well! Thanks for your comment.

Curation these days is even more decentralized than it used to be, since now stakeholders are incentivized to curate themselves by having the best return that way. Of course, there are some bigger stakeholders who just cast their votes on whatever is on the trending page because they have no time or interest in finding content themselves or they don't feel they would get back the same return by delegating to curation guilds to distribute stake for them.

To this point I want to give a gut shot test. Is it easy for lets say the bottom and mid hive holders to get a post to trending? or are there always whales involved? In our time there was sure whales needed, or a lot of voting bots :P

Great to hear from you again!

I guess I see what you are aiming at there. Meaning, in platform like Youtube, for example, all the votes are equal in weight and it does not affect if a user with bigger stake is coming in and casting the vote or just a regular viewer? I don't think it is entirely true these days as most of these platforms do have algorithms and certain metrics on what gets to the trending page and what doesn't and even some content that does not get presented to the viewers because they fail at certain metrics. You still need to put in work and grind your way to the top, work those algos and other things. It is similar on Hive where you have to grind and build your reputation, following and support for years. Should it be easy? That is a different debate. I think in that regard, it can be easier on Hive sometimes than on other platforms due to shire size of the userbase.

Currently my observation of the trending page is that there is a lot more great stuff that makes it there, and also that there are bunch of whales that are hitting posts that get close to trending page and then they end up there. There are a lot of curators of all sizes voting content since after a recent harfork split of rewards is 50/50.

Agree, working the algos and grinding all are important. But I maybe have a more feelings based metric for you. Good content should generate a lot of engagement. And we all know most of the top voted posts in each subcommunity barely get any engagement.

And why is this? Obivously because it's not interesting for them? But to who was it interesting? Would the answer be: 1. curation guild and 2. (a few) whales?

In OCD there was only 1 or two curator who determined which posts would get a vote. And yes after a while we were asked to read through the posts, but honestly who read every post of the other curators?

I don't know what is barely any engagement. I see a lot of posts on trending with 30 or so comments on them. Also if you look at the trending many of these posts are quite fresh, people comment sometimes within a day or more after the post is posted. Many are waiting for a bunch of comments to come in before answering them etc.

In case of OCD you would have to speak with others who are currently involved in the project, I believe OCD had evolved a lot also in how it operates and has many programs to support Hive creators.

It seems you have not been around much to see how all these things developed and evolved, I suggest getting familiar with them once again. I am sure your views would also change once you saw all the recent developments.

Is it easy for lets say the bottom and mid hive holders to get a post to trending?

Why should it be easy? Is it easy to get a starting spot for the Lakers or Real Madrid? Could you get a starting spot for your local city team?

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The next two on the list have 700 HP and 129 HP

That is the top 15 in Trending. Also, most people don't use Trending, they use communities to find their content these days.

You should have a look a bit deeper.

This is way off my point, the point is, the middle and lower holders barely pushes a post to the top, and worse they don't curate enough.

Making content rewarding centralized to only whales and curation guilds.

None of this depends on Hive power.

https://leofinance.io/

nor this:

https://www.proofofbrain.io/

or this:

https://www.1up.zone/

this either:

https://www.splintertalk.io/

As said, you are very narrowly focused and no matter what I say to illustrate, you stay narrow. You are sounding very ignorant.