There are significant reasons to attack Ukraine, overthrow their government and use it as a proxy to expand Russian influence on the EU. Ukraine has very fertile land, important pipelines and has been a significant part of the Soviet Union for a long time in the past.
Russia has had one major role over the last few decades: Be a major energy supplier for not only the EU, but also for China as well.
Control over Ukraine could further expand that business if they achieve their goal without total destruction of all infrastructures. That's a very valid goal, power over more critical energy infrastructure to stay powerful and rich while only taking tolls on energy running the pipes.
How's that not a good reason for war? I don't know how that's such a hard to get point.
This is good information and a fine addition to this post.
Although your tone is unsettling.
Perhaps don't assume that everyone knows what you know in a condescending manner.
Now plug that value into a spreadsheet and show me how it's worth more than sanctions and the lost access to the SWIFT network combined with the difficulty of controlling a country that hates you combined with the CIA feeding massive resources to underground shadow-wars within the country. I guess you and Putin are on the same side because this war is happening. Interesting outlook on the situation.
Well yes, the response for sure came unpredicted - for everyone actually.
But, he will keep vast parts of the East as Russian territory and check this map:
Also interesting is that in 2018, Ukraine started making problems are “Gas Transit Land” for Russia and went as far as confiscating foreign property by state power - always a bad move.
The Story has lots of layers of course, but we Europeans don’t want borders or land moved between countries ever again. Apparently it’ll take military deterrence over trade and peace, sad.
Hm yeah I'm sure the situation feels a lot different being smack dab in the middle of Europe.
Yes, we're sitting on a pile of heavy nukes here and word is that they damaged the metal mantel of Chernobyl during fights two days ago. Maybe you Americans will witness another stone age in Europe again. Rich and fancy people are already gtfo and we Germans are now freely rebuilding our Military again.
Pumping Billions into the War Maschine IS NOT A GOOD SIGN for keeping peace genrally... .... ....
I've found an slightly bigger as well
Can you see how important the Belarus/Ukraine Influence is? I strongly believe in „Follow the money to get the truth.“.
Good point.
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Yes. It's pretty obvious. Also the historical affinity.
Western media is peddling ridiculous propaganda that doesn't help defeat Putin but actually makes it harder by deluding people.
The Media is at its best and the censorship on both sides is ramping up extremely fast. They banned all Russian TV and Radio in Europe and I bet vise versa the same. That's absolutely not helpful.
Probably should start posting RT Articles onto Hive with rewards burnt in order to allow the information (and lies) of both sides to be viewed in Europe.
It's always important to know what's being reported, the coverage will continue in private telegram channels and inside of Russia anyway. And we need to get a hold of what their value system is and how it allows for this war to be justified.
Do we have any first-hand information on how the Chinese are rating this situation? It feels like censorship is at an all-time high right now. Whatever I google for, I can only find the same hand full of news sources. Again and again, it's unbelievable how useless that 'search engine' has become.
No. Its not a good reason for war as you will soon see. And economically the war makes no sense. Russia will suffer greatly. Even if they take Ukraine, not for 50 years will they recover.
War only makes sense if you understand Putin.
Well, China and India have no problem with that war, as well as the African countries.
We don't know what's going to happen over the next 5-10years, but we can tell that Russia will take the Gas Sources in East Ukraine and solidify their path to the black sea.
At some point, we have to understand, that the whole western alliance is shrinking and the rest of the world has billions of more people coming up increasingly faster.
China has as many engineers graduating every year, as the USA has overall in its economy. We'll be 10Billion People within the next 10years apx and if we don't understand how to build a common economy for all of us, we'll all fail. The century of the "Western Nations" will come to an end eventually.
Don't you think?
I dont think so. Putin has brought us all more closer together, especially in the EU that is notorious for weak response.
Only now are people, bureaucrats starting to understand this what youre saying. I do not think the age of Western Nations will ever end. If anything, Russia after Putin dies will probably be ready to join the west finally.
The cultural divide is close to nonexistent anymore. They are ready to join the west culturally. Now they need to be politically.
or we just end this chapter with nuclear winter and in a couple of million years different species of Intelligenz gets a shot of doing everything all over again.
I don´t think foreign leaders like Putin would feel salty about an end like that. Their world or none is all that matters. Like the real Nazi Families who poisoned their children and themselves in order to avoid living into a future without the ´Tausendjährige Deutsche Reich´. People are like that, they live for their mission, created by their vision which was formed by a value system that we will never be able to understand.
This is a very dangerous situation.
Could happen. I am not excluding the chance we could all be dead in a few months.
I hope we see it coming early enough to put up a proper party.
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