How To Calculate How Much Hive Power Is Needed For Each Hivebuzz Rank

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Let's Get Geeky

Another interest in the locker of mine is figuring out how things work and the maths behind something. This has probably been a side effect of working with @plantstoplanks, @cheese4ead and @foxyspirit on the @yourtop3 contest over the last 18 months as we've been trying to develop our leagues using copious amounts of spreadsheets! Oh the formulas...

However, this has not been a wasted activity as I have found myself getting stuck in to the more technical stuff and it's really helped with logical thinking (for the most part anyway)! One of the things I find myself digging into often is @hivebuzz's website and ranking system but as I am on a mission to get to HIVE Orca by the end of the year, I want to know how much Hive Power I need to get there.

"Vests" Are The Underlying Layer

I've often been a bit confused by "vests". No, not the things that the locals wear in redneck country, but all the time we talk about Hive Power and the importance of powering up, particularly with #HivePUD happening on the 1st October, it's actually the "vests" that we're increasing. So what are they?

The best layman explanation I can offer is that it's a bit like your bandwidth on the internet and you can probably think of vests as resource credits (RCs). The more you have, the more you can do in terms of activity, voting on content, witnesses and proposals, things like that. Vests (RCs) are numbers on a scale that is so vast that Hive Power is basically a way to factor those numbers down to something a bit more comprehensible for the average user.

If someone with a bit more tech-know-how wants to give a proper description of vests in the comments, let me know.

The Calculation

OK, so now we have some idea of what vests are, you will see a rather large number under your profile when you go to check your hivebuzz page. You can see that it's in the 10s of millions (unlike my bank account #tears4havey) and so I have 95,856,762 vests - an unfathomable number which is hard to comprehend.

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Insider information though, it's the vests that actually decide what rank you get from redfish, minnow, dolphin, orca or whale. Here's the required vests per rank:

100,000 = Redfish
1,000,000 = Minnow
10,000,000 = Dolphin
100,000,000 = Orca
1,000,000,000 = Whale

Now, I know that 95,856,762 vests = 49,768.452 HP as that's my wallet currently so we need to work out the vest conversion factor (at time of writing):

95,856,762/49,768.452 = 1,926

This means, as of 29th September 2020, you need:

51.92 HP = Redfish
519.2 HP = Minnow
5,192 HP = Dolphin
51,920 HP = Orca
519,200 HP = Whale

The calculation is:

Equation 1: Vest Conversion = Current Vest Amount From Hivebuzz / Current HP From Wallet

Equation 2: Hive Power Needed = Required Vests / Vest Conversion Factor

Of course, if you just wanted to wait and receive the badge from @hivebuzz and have a nice surprise then don't worry about it and enjoy your experience here!

Hope you found it helpful!

Nicky

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And can you compile a list of all Orcas ? May be we will build a community or a voting trail to support new comers as @steevc is doing currently.

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If you go to HiveBuzz and sort my HP you will see all the whales listed first and then the orcas. Their Lvl icon shows which they are. Of course someone could write a script to dump out a list.

I know at least one orcas is not active, but not powering down. Seems a waste of an account.

Ah I see Steev replied to you. I'm no coder mate so wouldn't have a clue how to do that! I just use the same technique that @steevc mentioned in his reply - head to HiveBuzz, sort the columns by HP and then see who has the Orca (red background) icon - job done 👍

I've always wondered about how is it calculated. I remember how much I was stressing you to find out when I'll finally become a dolphinn haha

Haha it's actually not too complex a calculation as what I first thought. I must have been thinking about how it's figured out for ages but it just suddenly came to me in a flash of inspiration 😁

Hope this now puts the question to bed on how to work out how much HP it takes to get to all the levels!

Gosh!

side effect of working with @plantstoplanks, @cheese4ead and @foxyspirit on the @yourtop3 contest over the last 18 months

Ahem! I don't think so. You really just like playing with numbers. And delving into how things work!

Very interesting and useful. Thank you, Nick

I can't deny that I learned a shit ton from working on the leagues for the contest though. It expanded my knowledge and hurt my brain at times but when it clicked, it was pretty cool! Fed my curiosity on knowing how things work and it's a transferable skill!

Glad you found it useful! You don't need a spreadsheet to work this out either so you should be ok 😜

Hahaha! Nope, and I appreciate someone else doing and understanding the numbers and explaining them.

Nice ... perhaps I will be a dolphin by Christmas... thanks for the conversion work for us!

You're welcome, glad it's helpful! Looking at your wallet, you could easily get there by the time Christmas comes with the amount of liquid HBD and HIVE you have (but I guess you are keeping it liquid for a reason) 😁 just keep doing your thing, you got this 💪

Yep ... I invest my liquid HIVE in tokenizing on NFT Showroom, and I am saving up HBD to purchase some art for a book cover from a fellow Hive artist ... it is rotating slowly back into the ecosystem ... meanwhile, I just do my posts every day and keep hodling away ...

That's awesome and good for you for using HIVE as an actual currency to buy things!

My goals always change since I have been powering up from day 1 but currently, I'm on a tunnel vision mission to get to Orca by the end of the year and then I guess will see what I will do after that although I lease out my HP for daily payouts which is a nice combination for me.

I have a significant amount of Hive leased out to Tipu ... it powers up about a third of a Hive every day for me, and my immediate goal is to get that to half a Hive a day.

Ah I have heard about tipu but never used it or looked in to it. What's the APR on that? I have delegated to curation guilds but the return is about 8% which is OK but I have about 14% from leasing out to curie and that does make a big difference in daily payouts.

Well, I am going to have to do our type of math to work this out.

Approximately 3600HP yields 1 Hive in HP per day on Tipu, and there are 365 days in most years. That gives you around 10.15 percent APR.

Good to know the exact details. Gives us all something to aim for in the near future.

Not as near as your future but still a solid target. 😀

The conversion factor changes each day I think (the amount required to get to the levels gets more due to "inflation") so always good to check that calculation when you're really looking to buy up and find out exactly how much to buy but a good marker anyway!

You have really rocketed up the last couple of weeks though so you'll be there in no time! It's the last level, being a whale, that will probably take decades haha

The conversion factor changes each day I think (the amount required to get to the levels gets more due to "inflation") so always good to check that calculation when you're really looking to buy up and find out exactly how much to buy but a good marker anyway!

You have really rocketed up the last couple of weeks though so you'll be there in no time! It's the last level, being a whale, that will probably take decades haha

It's the last level, being a whale, that will probably take decades haha

I though that about dolphin 3 years ago but we all blew past it. Then Orca before the year is out. We have time. Lets say 3 years to break through to OG's and become whales.

If I ever have the money I'll just buy my way into it. 😂

Haha true yeah. The price was pretty low then and I remember just going large with buying loads of Hive and blasting past barriers I never thought possible! I'm so tempted to buy some more at these prices but my own finances are uncertain at the moment so have to wait for that to sort itself out but yeah, 3 years to whaledom?

Let's make it happen mate, don't think I'll be getting there through just blood and sweat alone! Need multiple HIVE income streams now haha

Awesomeness, @nickyhavey - I totally understand it all now!

😂😂😂

In all seriousness though, I've bookmarked this post to share with people when they ask about the ranking. You've actually broken it down in such a way that even my brain understands. I'd say good luck with making Orca, but I know you don't need it as you have amazeballs good juju already working in your favor... however, here's a little more just in case...

Haha, come on now Traci, you love the stats and calculations 😃

Thanks for the awesomesauce juju as always and definitely feel free to share this around, hope it will be helpful and ties in nicely with the Hive PUD efforts! Fingers crossed can reach Orca by the end of the year! We'll see!