Thank you for the input @inalittlewhile! While I did not state it in this way in my post, in many ways I could classify trying to compare these two communities to an "apples and oranges" comparison. What I did state was there is no question that Leo has a much clearer defined set of objectives.
In the end, I may just choose to invest some time and effort into both, as I like the abstract objective Ray has of providing a community for men.
Thanks again for stopping by and providing some input. Have a good day (evening)!
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