In short, a Bitcoin maximalist believes with unwavering conviction that Bitcoin is the only cryptocurrency – in fact, currency – worth caring about. Most maximalists also feel strongly that altcoins (any cryptocurrency that is not Bitcoin) are not just technically flawed, but are morally questionable. source
This is pretty much what I have been told about Bitcoin maximalists over the years, although the "morality" of it hasn't really come up, unless morality equals ROI in the eyes of a maximalist. But in general, there are people who believe that BTC is the one ring of power and all the other rings must bow down in its wake. This is not a bad call in the early days of crypto and still most of the market is tied to the fortunes and failures of Bitcoin, but I also think it is quite a juvenile view, as there is no way that Bitcoin can scale to serve all the needs of everything that will ever be tokenized in the economy.
Of course, they can look at it only from the point of view as a store of value thing that will go up in price - but this will always tie Bitcoin to the amount of money that can be pushed into it from fiat currencies. Meaning, that the people who will benefit the most from Bitcoin, will be the ones who already have a lot of Bitcoin or, have enough wealth to put into Bitcoin at this point. We are seeing the corporations and institutions starting to do this now.
Altcoins however, serve a largely different purpose than Bitcoin, as they are more practical in nature, even though there isn't a lot of "use" for many of them at this point. I see them as more of a bridge kind of token, where they are able to attach real-world activity to value, whilst maintaining security through code and decentralization of ownership, as well as reducing the cost of "doing business" itself, by cutting out unnecessary rent-seeking middlemen. It also provides ownership of value and brings a high degree of mobility to individuals who might not otherwise have the opportunity.
But, what I think is a huge part of the alt story, is that it allows for almost anyone, anywhere, to invest into businesses and projects to provide liquidity for them to build upon, giving stake-based share ownership in numerous ways, with the potential for very large returns on investment. But on top of the returns, it allows for us to pick and choose what we are investing into in ways that many have not been able to before, which fundamentally changes the way in which value flows through the economy, increasingly taking more into private hands and out of the grasp of government, bank and corporation directly.
Investing essentially is providing liquidity for a business to build upon, but because the gateways to do so are managed, most people in this world have very little opportunity to make the move and start to become an owner. Instead, most of us are renters, either because we own nothing that we actually control, or we are in debt of some kind. We pay fees on the debt, we pay in purchase power on the inflation of currencies we cannot affect.
So, decentralized finance (DeFi), while only in its infancy, is part of the bridge system that can bring the altcoins bought and earned on the various usecases, together into a collected pool to provide liquidity for activity, which can then be used to build new businesses upon and perhaps the foundation for new tokenized products, that can be invested directly into, earned upon and have those earnings be used to go back into a pool in a rinse and repeat cycle. The potential for astronomical collective growth is huge, with the difference from normal banking systems being that all of this is done through a myriad chains and tokens, all owned and spread by millions of users globally, none of them owning enough (hopefully) to commandeer value for themselves alone. The value created gets spread back through the system.
Perhaps an example of the way this works is my own bullishness on Hive, where for over four years I have been able to build my stake and hold a fair bit through my own activity and purchases. Built on Hive is Leo Finance, which has its own set of tokens and products and has been around for about two years. If we are going to look at the total value of holdings, there are quite a few people who now have far more worth on Leo, than I have on Hive and they are able to use that to further the Leo project a well as diversify into other projects. Now, I had the opportunity to convert Hive into LEO but didn't do too much, as I am (for the purpose of this paragraph, but not true) a "HIVE maximalist". Did I miss an opportunity? For current ROI, yes, but in the terms of the ecosystem that Leo is built upon, definitely not. We are building an economy here, which requires many healthy businesses.
However, what does that simple example look like if we only had Bitcoin to play with, does it work? Not really, as if I had a lot of Bitcoin and Leo started with Bitcoin, their is no room for growth, there is no reason for me or others to get into LEO, as holding Bitcoin is all that is required. My point is, that while Bitcoin is struggling for use case, the tokenization of experience is expanding rapidly, generating value that didn't exist earlier, practical vehicles that anyone can opt into and use to support the growth of activity they like, for example,, the social and content activity on Hive.
What I wonder is, how many Bitcoin maximalists are left?
Obviously, Bitcoin is a fantastic investment opportunity and will be for a long time to come, but the more that the altcoins attach their value to real-world activity, the less need for Bitcoin to move anywhere, as it becomes a store of value. However, what this means is that Bitcoin can be used to enter into pools to generate altcoins, effectively providing the liquidity for more altcoin tokenization to exist. Bitcoin can't mine Bitcoin, but it can mine an altcoin.
Where does this leave the mind of a Bitcoin maximalist who doesn't believe in altcoins?
It is interesting, don't you think? As going forward, the largest likely use case for Bitcoin isn't that it can be used to purchase Lamborghinis, it is that it can underpin the creation of new tokenized products and services through the generation of inflation using DeFi. It is in this that it truly becomes the "Gold 2.0" of the world, as it is lumped together in decentralized Fort Knox environments to help back the value of everything else.
What I think a true maximalist (if they still exist) is missing, is that Bitcoin is an important piece of the crypto economy, but without the altcoins, its own reason to exist is greatly diminished. The tokenized ecosystem requires a very large range of tokens and usecases in order to bring practical usability to it in order to attract the addition, creation and generation of value within it. Through this, there is the security of diversity and the ability for investment and activity to become opt-in, without having to tie oneself to a single source ever again.
I think that what we are slowly embarking on now is the next phase of blockchain and crypto, where we are further creating a mesh of assets that combine to become far greater in value than when they are stand alone. Hive is doing this on its own chain in many ways, but it will also have to increasingly connect in with the larger ecosystem to create more bridges between use cases. DeFi is a way for it to do this and in time, the entire crypto-asset industry will be plugging into decentralized and digital versions of Fort Knox to build a network economy that all participants own globally.
Instead of being subjects of a king, there are no kings.
Taraz
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My main issue with Bitcoin maximalism is the dogmatic rigidity of Bitcoin maximalists, and their attitude towards altcoins not being that different from the attitude nocoiners have towards Bitcoin.
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People get easily attached to tradition and stuck in nostalgia.
The difference between one cryptocurrency and another cryptocurrency is like the difference between a spoon and a shovel.
pretty much. And there is space for a thousand other tools, because sometimes you need a screwdriver.
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.Bitcoin maximalist are living in a tunnel, their own tunnel. You made some good points. Though the whole space seems to be about building DeFi and NFTs which are in the end all more or less the creation of money trees with some distribution mechanism on top, nothing more than that. Use cases they are not. However, all these altcoin chains are there for use cases to be built on top. In the future, I predict the only relevant chains are those that are sup[er fast, can deal with 100k's tx per second and handles data very very efficiently (ie data on the core chain is limited to the most minimal set required). Bitcoin chain will never be able to reach mass adoption since it never can handle 100k+ tx/second, while tx fees will be too high. Also, what will happen with BTC when all BTC are minted? RUnning the network costs a shitload of money, but what will these miners do when they don't get paid anymore? BTC as Gold2.0: maybe for some time to come, but what in 20 years? I predict BTC will be something that once was, but will not be of any core value anymore in two decades from now. Something the maximalist don't want to hear, but I said it right here {LOL} Many alt-chains will also stop existing. Others will enter the market and become relevant. Lessons learned from the past will be adopted in new chains. The tech is still evolving. In the meantime, I think we'll see a lot more DeFi services being born. What we also will see is a lot of people burning their fiat money on many of these DeFi projects and will leave the space again, as we saw back in 2018. DeFi is gambling, like CUB is gambling. Sure, we may trust the team behind it, that they will come up with real use cases, but today it's gambling. But a very interesting wat of gambling, if I may say so :)
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Money trees to grow upon perhaps. They are bridges. In regards to NFTs, they will be products in themselves with increasing usecase. For example, your Hive account is an NFT of sorts and later it could be used to verify and fingerprint all kinds of other NFTs, to provide additional artist authenticity.
But, as a store of increasing value, it doesn't have to move, it just has to have layered smart contracts attached to it to group it in a pool, creating a vault.
There are something like 15,000 now - most do nothing and will never do anything.
All investing with money is gambling, especially in the early days :)
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Agree the tech created with DeFi, but more eve with NF will have use cases that makes sense. Though how it is used now, is miss use in my honest opinion. All for a quick buck. That in itself doesn't help the credibility of the crypto space, which is a big shame.
True, BTC can be thje vault, but I don't see the point for BTC to be the vault. More flexible vault will be created which in the end are as secure as BTC is. BTC rewards to the miners will stop, and I don't see an inceptove for them to continue mining resulting in BTC being dismanteled at that point in time, or soon afterwards.
Hahahaha 15k Alts... Luckily a little less first layer token, like having their own chain. It the chain itself that provides value. Tokens on 2nd and higher layer, need to come with something else that matter to society.
The value is the hype - it makes people stand up. Tesla's first electrics were overpriced sportscars - though their plan was to build for the common person and make EVs the standard.
I think that by the time it will be irrelevant to mine, there will be other options for the way it is used.
It is a whole lot of fun to be in a space that is still - for the most part - trying to cross-the-chasm in the hockey stick model of Geoffrey Moore 🤩
We are experiencing the stage where more and more people are now able to enter into crypto from different angles. It used to be that only Hive (old steem) used to be the platform for non-tech people or non-investors to join the party.
Now there are more chains offering a great sandbox for experimentation. Just in Hive you have people building and playing games, selling/purchasing art or photography NFTs building their own tribe/front-end token economy, forming with the new set of products offered at CubFinance jumping easily into other chains through the bridges, and so on.
Anyone with a few earned dollars in Hive is now able to move into other decentralized chains and test other things. As more and more people develop and experiment, more and more users will join and this will only lead to more and more value to those projects well build and maintained.
WAX has done an incredible job of onboarding non-crypto users into the space with low prized NFTs and collectibles. And other chains as xDai and Polygon will ramp up fast as some of the projects being built there launch.
My personal feeling is that we are in the consolidation phase of crypto just a few months ahead of the mass explosion.
It is definitely past the point where I am able to keep up with even a fraction of what is going on these days. People are talking about all these other chains and the potential I am missing out on, but it is more than a fulltime job to stay up with it all, let alone interact with it all. I don't know how people do it.
I personally am at the stage where I am making a choice to spend time doing what I enjoy (writing) rather than chasing every new project or ROI. I have been doing this a while already. Some people seem hellbent on chasing every cent, regardless of the validity of projects.
I agree, this is consolidation in many forms going on, and I think that it will be the projects with use case that will take the majority of value after the explosion.
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haha, good point, Bitcoin is to Altcoins, what Gold used to be to Fiat :D
I could have saved 1200 words ;D
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Alt coins have so much more potential compared to Bitcoin. I don't understand everyone's infatuation with it today. If you bought in at $1 I can understand the hype.
But the best you can do is double your cash with Bitcoin. Maybe that is even limited now.
Alt coins can provide better use cases
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I think that once looking past ROI, bitcoin has far more relevance as the backing mechanism to build upon.
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As a store of value and use case if successfully accepted as payment, but my opinion which could be wrong is once people do start accepting it they will release the fees are far too high and start looking for alternatives.
For us Aussie Image the cost to a purchase
The purchase price + fees + GST + taxes I can't see it staying around for very long other than higher end payments.
The example I would use is Ethereum. People left in droves due to fees and it is a highly successful block chain.
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It doesn't even need to be accepted as payment, it can just back forms of currency that are. people buy gold, yet they don't expect to walk into Harvey Norman's and buy a TV with it.
Ethereum is a good example of having to innovate to keep users and I think that if they had brought in Eth 2 earlier, they would haven't have lost as many users. This is going to be the entire industry going forward.
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That's true, but alot of the biggest buyers of gold are people looking to store their wealth in economic hardships when cash is becoming devalued.
Countries or more so governments are the biggest investors in gold. But I think that's an interesting point you raised about its use as value like that.
Should Bitcoin be accepted as such gold will drop. I had a discussion tonight with someone who said it was all bullshit and fake. I asked why and they said what's the value? I asked them what the value in gold was, they simply said "it's gold".
I then further asked them, yes and how often do you use gold and why is it worth so much? They couldn't respond.
I also showed them Hive and Leo and they immediately said it is built on a fake economy. To which I pointed out they use Facebook and by them being on it they are creating value for Facebook. What's the difference other than Leo creating value for their users rather than a top person.
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This is the thing. Much of the value of anything is based around the narrative of it. In the past, gold had value because it was used to back fiat currencies - now it is free-roaming with very little usecase. Yeah, it can make jewellery and some electronics. But at least the jewellery side of it makes it no different to a painting or an NFT gif.
It is about the brainwashing of society to believe that we can't generate value for ourselves, it has to be created and managed for us.
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You're 100% right.
I won't even go into the discussion we had once I opened up Cubdefi. A coin generating interest was apparently unheard of.....
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About where a UST bond maximilist was 5 years ago. Just about ready to get fried. (New transactions only. Hodling a pizza's worth of BTC is already maximalized.)
I see BTC as a repository and relative central exchange (central being able to buy and sell most Alts with BTC).
De Fi could be it. If some genius figures out how to sell specific sized fractional bits of a business and not have that considered a 'share' or 'security' he's liable to make a significant amount of something that can be traded for real value.
I am not so sure that BTC should be even considered in the same genus and species as most of the other cryptos. BTC is finite and has a distinct purpose.
It is the distinct purpose that is the issue with the maximization mindset, as it ignores that there are other needs in the world of crypto than what BTC offers. No one can eat their bonds, though at some point, the nutritional value of them might be more than their monetary value :D
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In terms of Value I think a lot of people hodl most of their $$$$ in Bitcoin at this point ... since the Value has skyrocketed from a few hundred dollars to $60,000 ... But Ethereum and BNB are taking off thanks to NFT and Defi. I’m sure at some point Hive will move up the ladder as more people realize they can earn a little crypto from blogging, playing games, making videos.
I think more options will be coming soon for HIVE too - will be interesting.
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DeFi will be great.
Sould be. Looks like there will be various forms coming to Hive.
I love my altcoins and tokens for their ease of exchange and use. I can get in and learn as I go with little downside risk unless I am a complete idiot. I get satisfaction from making my tiny contributions to support projects I believe have value. !BBH
I agree. They make it far easier and cost-effective to play around a little, while learning a lot.
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