Bottom line (IMO) without SMT this Hive thing is a smouldering peat bog.
Burning yes, but did man achieve progress with embers or with ACTUAL FIRE!?
On "BLOCKTIVITY" ..the whale club here is tiny. Most left long ago. The ones that are still here don't really post. They just make their rewards plugged in to curation trails. Then sip tea or coffee in discord rooms, not sure what they talk about but likely it's mandatory to praise themselves on how well they impress themselves on twitter.
Back at camp, the poor people here try build a little camp fire here and there to stay warn and cook the few fish they caught in the river (some undersized barely reaching $10). It's a very peculiar system that this became. This was predicted by a smart person named @teknow a while back.. here is that prophetic post:
https://peakd.com/steemit/@teknow/steemit-the-digital-rio-de-janerio-poor-or-rich-or-poor
oh wait I'm teknow..
Anyway see that's the thing.. what is here now IS MOST DEFINITELY SUPERIOR to other chains. THE COMMUNITIES are the TRUE VALUE here. Regardless of token price. Without that SMT though, they aren't really treated accordingly. There isn't really a way to do that. There is no system that grants equal share of contribution for engagement. It's very selective rewards as the current system. SMT needed to happen so long ago. It still can happen because luckily the committed folks singing around campfires are the beating heart here.
So again, the point is SMTs need to happen.
Some time before we here, in The Milky Way, merge with Andromeda though.
Because aliens are believed to be far more intelligent than humans.
They might have blockchain working a lot better than us.
ENGAGEtokens.I don’t see HIVE so bad off without SMT, but I agree, it needs to happen, like you said, yesterday.
I’m not worried about the whale flight either, rather I’m quite pleased about that. The more decentralized, the better. But there will always be more readers than content creators, just like everywhere.
But with this I completely agree:
Without a doubt. Without the community there is absolutely nothing – hence that incredible symbiotic relationship between the protocol and the owners that we see on HIVE. There is none other!
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Yeah the decentralised money is a plus but the problem is the middle class (dolphins + orcas) are also small. Plus that middle class is looking up (trying to impress whales) rather than looking down and helping small communities grow.
What your said to taskmaster:
That's precisely why SMT must be implemented. I can't see Hive achieving that distribution without it. Because a truly fair system would need to have implemented much more that just an upvote button. CHAT for example doesn't even exist here. Something which I believe should be the base for any social platform.
I believe if a person decides to bring their friends over but has absolutely no ability to write good posts and comments (let's call them: silent users), they are still VITAL to holding up the system by all their chat activity (open and private). Rewarding that (incrementally) assures retention of every user and gains more as their network is onboarded.
That's why I see all blockchains as still basic. I wouldn't be celebrating them as "web 3.0 ready for you to leave 2.0" the way many are broadcasting on their splash page. When they can't even do basic CHAT it's blatantly clear why people leave. Because it's completely backwards to join here then realize discord or telegram is where you'll communicate with your network. All other mainstream platforms have chat embedded because the content feeds that need to be entertained, but the communications makes sure that person (and their friends) stays seated in your system.
IDK for sure, and I try to just give my input, so keep that in mind with everything I say. It seems to me though that everything has its place. Discord's original use case was for workgroups, correct? I think that's the case, and it works really well for that. A traditional blog forum has another type of use, and even though private messages are possible, they are not an important part of users' interaction. Personally, I'm an open source radical, to the point that I would ban all private messaging! 🤯 Especially with a community dedicated to managing our collectively pooled money. There should be absolutely nothing secret here IMHO - everything should be out in the open.
I do agree with what you say about everyone (meaning the majority) looking up instead of down, but isn't that a reflection of human nature, of life in general? I'm not saying I agree with it though, just that it's more of a general social issue that needs to be dealt with on a wider scale and with lots of patience and understanding.
As far as rewards go, I too think it's imperative to find a way to make the smaller vote counts worth the same (at least the same) as the larger. A voting power of, let's say 50¢, should be worth the same 50¢ on a comment with only 50¢ of upvote as it's worth on a post with $50 of upvotes. Individual comments are penalized under the current reward system, and that goes contrary to what needs to happen, again, IMHO. Individual comments, like these, are the lifeblood of any social media. People need to have the same right to vote a friend's picture with the same weight as their vote would have on Super Poster's rant about centralized exchanges, that is if we really want HIVE to go mainstream.
I also think more equal vote weighting for the smaller vote counts would also go a long ways in getting people to start looking down, or at least across anyway ... at the person in front of them. 😉
I agree almost completely with you man so it's actually good that your viewpoint is expressed here because, (imo) that's partly the problem here, all these coder (and speculative) heads don't listen to anyone but themselves as to what makes a good system/platform. They think like nerds but mainstream isn't nerds.
Where I do disagree with you is in response to your open source radical ethics, but still holding this belief:
It just makes no sense to want to onboard masses that by default expect chat and private messaging. It's literally the fundamental of why social media has the prefix social. I get your viewpoint and yes I agree that some discussions must be open.
However masses don't all share intimate truths about themselves openly. That's why chat and the private messaging appeals. Specially when this place claims it's Web 3.0. That would be like FB launching as just a place where you share your phone number but the actual conversations are had over the phone. To join this and then need to download another app for chat is completely ridiculous.
People in large networks form personal bonds in communities (check ✓) but they then share their personal lives and open up to each other in private discussions. Now obviously that's an illusion because FB for instance has complete access but that's a trade-off for convenience. People here have no choice, they must discord, but masses see that and say no thank you.
Truth is even masses are seeking a better system and that's why encrypted messaging has gained popularity. For this to not be the standard of these "web 3.0" systems is why I see them at basic. Just building a backbone and thinking this is superior is why crypto projects have remained stagnant for years since that ICO boom where every group was claiming that they were revolutionising the world.
So really IMO, to your point on your own blog. That's likely going to be the outcome. Another perform will launch with a complete package and then just like a bath draining. Everyone will migrate there. The fact none has launched yet is again why I always say, this crypto game is basic. Everyone thinks "tokens here, why aren't they coming" but that's because rewards aren't what people seek. People seek connections with other humans. COMMUNITIES again, the proof.
You make a very effective and convincing case, and I must say that you have got me rethinking my position. I always come back to the realization that compromise is the essence of agreement, and that completely radicalized ideas never meet with reality. In this case, as you say, there is good reason to incorporate the naturally occurring private nature of some aspects of our social relationships into the media setting itself, precisely to better reflect and serve participants’ communication needs, or, in other words, life itself. Nicely done!
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Yeah man there's always patterns that make sense as to why things fail or succeed. Humans are social creatures so if human is central, then that system must sustain the human activity as a fundamental.
Without that infrastructure of connectivity then there's just no robust platform. That's why I see crypto not yet a real product and why it lingers between failure and success.
Speculation is the main game. This Hive thing has positives, but that growth can't happen until crypto and blockchain evolves more. Some years yet in my view.
By then HIVE will cost $200 ... minimum. 😉
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