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RE: When was the last time you checked your witness votes? Was it the Steem/Hive hard fork? Or Never?

in LeoFinance2 years ago (edited)

Following on from Truthforce's comment.. I just want to add that while many people have no clue of the extent of the corruption and manipulation that is present via mainstream media sources and by extension also the bigger internet sources - the reality is that everything possible (short of mass executions of dissenters) is being done to try to silence any commentary that gains traction which contradicts the lies being sold by the corporatocracies on this planet.

We have an issue, then, on Hive - where many people know that all of this is occurring, but many do not. Many here have had personal experience from both inside and outside of the mind control systems on this planet and they want to fix the Earth to create a more honest, free and happy future for us. However, many seem to have no idea this is transpiring and of course some here - just based on statistics - will be part of the group who are actively trying hard to get everyone to deny reality in order to cover up their crimes against humanity.

There really is a war on for your mind and it is longstanding and has been heavily funded for many generations. The situation is very much like the movie 'The Matrix', where just about anyone can get caught up in the matrix of false reality they were fed from birth and then fail to see or care about what is right in front of their eyes.

All of this means we have a difficult situation where mass downvoting to suppress the spread of information online can be hand waved away as just 'disagreements on rewards' and any attempt to argue against this can be just said to be 'the greed of terrible people' etc.

Equally, downvoting that isn't specifically to suppress information can end up looking like it is being done for that purpose and this adds fuel to the fire.

All along I have been asking for restraint and care when downvoting for ideological reasons because it can cause so many problems that can usually be solved in a more intelligent, social and friendly way - e.g. through conversation. In all cases that we are protesting here, there was zero attempt at any conversation or friendliness - no quiet word to say that there is an issue and maybe we can sort it out by agreeing x/y/z or having a friendly public debate on key issues. Instead it was just full on assault, over and over - mixed in with sneering ridicule, scorn and lies. This is all I personally need to know to have a good sense of what is occurring and it is not healthy at all.

Just like the people facing off against the cops in so many cities of the world - the cops are fighting for a paycheque but the people are fighting for freedom and their future. So obviously, those seeking freedom are not really going to give up. One way or another we will find workable solutions here. Despite what anyone might think, I personally just want the situation to resolve as painlessly as possible for all and I genuinely want to help Hive to grow to be the best it can be in all ways - so there is really no need for drama - yet here we are, dealing with drama that it was not possible to avoid without leaving the entire network, which is exactly what some of the downvoters have told me personally to do! Without a shred of evidence or even explanation as to why they are right.. This is simply bullying that in most cases this would not be tolerated - yet, due to the stake weighting and lack of community uproar, it continues on. In a sense it is understandable, in this climate, that there isn't much of a community response as yet, since the atmosphere is not really one that a lot of people would want to defend or improve! However, I still hold a high vision for the future of Hive and I still intend to do everything possible to bring it to manifestation.

If you personally care about real community spirit, the truth coming to light, healthy change for Earth and the creation of a better world, then please consider listening to Kenny's info above and do what you can to help resolve this issue - whether it be through social negotiation, changing witness votes, delegating to relevant parties or through whatever other creative solution you are excited to explore!

Wishing you well,
Ura-Soul

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healthy change for Earth and the creation of a better world

I cannot take this seriously. I also find it difficult to bite my tongue on this one as well. The ridiculousness of such lines. Is this supposed to be an election for a new god? If we do what Kenny says, the world will be fixed... ?

I realize yourself, kenny, and a couple others don't enjoy criticism much, but, is the sensationalism really necessary? Your entire speech is riddled with it but that line especially iced the cake. Are you maybe simply unaware of the fact some people on this planet see right through that kind of stuff offering them no choice but to write it all off as total bunk? That approach comes across as being incredibly dishonest and fake.

I won't discount the fact several of those witnesses are damn good people and have done some damn good things, so I won't let this zany approach of promoting them change my mind about them or impact how I feel about them personally, but damn, if I was on that list, personally I would not want to be involved in this awkward campaign. I feel bad for the people being thrown under the bus. I feel bad for those who didn't make the cut yet I know damn well they're good people as well. You say you stand up for the spirit of the community. On the surface that's all shiny and sweet. Look around though. The reality of the situation is, as far as I can tell, a couple of you got downvoted, which means you're not making as much money as you think you deserve, so for selfish reasons you're attempting to create a massive rift, working to divide the community, so you can have your way.

I don't always agree with every action of those I sometimes agree with or support. I personally don't take sides on issues. If I disagree with you that does not automatically mean I agree with all those you despise, all the time. You think it's wrong if people vote based on ideals. So therefore, based on your own logic, you'd think I'd be making the wrong choice if I followed your advice and removed or added votes for certain individuals, because if I did that, that decision would have been based on your ideals.

Maybe rethink your approach. And please don't come at me with some ridiculous rebuttal. I don't have time to listen to your spin today. That is all. Some food for thought and an honest perspective coming from someone who sees no need to impress anyone or fit in with anything.

It may be hard to understand in a world that is so cynical and heartless, but many people have dedicated a lot of their time to actually taking action to improving life on Earth. It's obviously a big topic and not one you are going to grasp through cynical lenses and reading a tiny fraction of people's life story in a few paragraphs in a small subset of their Hive posts. You clearly don't accept really anything that Kenny and I share in posts as being valid or real, so obviously you are going to see such statements of intent in the way that you are.

If you took the time to actually understand why I said what I said then you might be able to align more to the meaning. Ultimately, it makes no difference to me whether people think I am talking 'bunk' or not. The proof is in the pudding and the oven is on.

You're using the same tactics the big media corporations and political parties use to get their way. Just because I don't see the world through your eyes does not mean I'm heartless and somehow can't see the world for what it is. I know bullshit when I see it. And there's no need to make this about ME. The proof of the pudding is in the eating. Get it right.

I didn't say you were heartless, I said you are experiencing a world that is quite heartless and has normalised it in many ways. In truth, I feel that almost everyone has some degree of heartlessness in them, but I am not judging that to be the case in you as I do not know you.

None the less, we clearly do not see things through the same eyes.

The proof of the pudding is in the eating, yes - this pudding is still being prepared in a form that you can consume.

Ditch the sensationalism. Get real. Refine your approach. Work towards bringing people together rather than creating a rift. Realize those who agree are already with you on this by default. They're not the ones you need to impress. That's something I tried to explain to you months ago under one of your covid posts, where you had insulted someone with a brutally disgusting attitude for simply not thinking the way you think and I left that instance thinking you were attempting to make me look like an idiot as well. That day you also couldn't understand why it would be wrong for a man to be happy and smiling after finding out my father had a blood clot. I know you don't know me but those are some of my most recent memories of you. Kenny here has me on mute after I called him out on some bs and I got to see his true colors that day. I didn't come here bitter about these things and certainly don't hold a grudge. I'd like to think I'm better than that. But maybe those events did show me something else about you guys so when I read this bunk about making the world a better place, I just see the face of Jim Jones, and don't trust it. You folks talk a big game but my experience dictates you don't practice what you preach. Like it or not, after much thought, that's how I feel about all this.

And do you know what led me here to you folks and this little show you're putting on? I had been gone for nearly four months, completely offline, nearly off grid. Came back, started sifting through notifications and mentions, checking in on what I missed. Low and behold I find out I'm being thrown under the bus too, by someone tied to this group and even mentioned in the post above. Total fucking low blow and I wasn't even here to defend myself. To top it off I haven't even done anything wrong. It boils down to small town mentality some of you folks have around here. Gawking over the fence. They see someone supporting my work, they don't like that someone, so they paint me as a villain too. And it's not the first time. And it's sickening. Low. Disgusting. And I don't see how any of this makes the world a better place. Sounds more like a world that doesn't involve me.

In the post above Kenny says something like, "I'm not sure what to label those people who support these monsters." Sure I'm paraphrasing. But I can already see where this is going, based on experience, some of the people involved, and so on. Soon enough there will be several more names added to your hit list because they don't think how you think or didn't do what you wanted them to do. That's my guess anyway. You folks will double down on creating this rift, all while posing as the good guys, which I'm not buying.

Anyway. I'm outta here.

Ok, I recall parts of the conversation now. I would need to re-read the text you are referring to, but I know for sure that your characterisation of me as 'couldn't understand why it would be wrong for a man to be happy and smiling after finding out my father had a blood clot' is not true. I seem to recall agreeing with you that such a position would be heartless.

I don't know who or what you are referring to with regards to being thrown under the bus by someone mentioned above. I don't know more than a small percentage of the people listed here and I certainly don't track their comments enough to know what you are talking about. People say things that are heartless, I do what I can to help to heal, balance and evolve that specific problem - whether you understand that or not doesn't change that it is the case. Most people are not doing anything to resolve this issue. I can't be held responsible for other people's actions - only my own. I am more than happy to take responsibility for anything I have said or done.

I agree that there is a need to harmonise, depolarise and connect people together in a balanced way. That takes intent on both 'sides' in order to achieve. It is absolutely what needs to happen in all problematic social situations. Even knowing this, we have survival strategies and fight/flight conditioning that can be triggered and draw us into conflicts that do not serve us. The topic of information control during COVID is hugely triggering in this regard. There are people who don't accept it is happening or who actively further the suppression - it is totally understandable that to people who view this suppression as preventing lives being saved, the people involved are dangerous. Just like the other way around, people who do the suppression seem to think that the people they are suppressing are dangerous.

Ultimately, arguing over it doesn't help solve the problem.

Heartless indeed. What's worse is that man had his head so full of this anti vax stuff he up and included an, "I told you so." to go along with that smile. But it wasn't the vaccine that caused the clot, it was an injury that caused the blood clot. You tried to tell me that day the, "I told you so" portion was "medical advice." But that guy cuts grass for a living and most likely spends his time stuck inside the antivax social media echo chamber getting his fill of brainwash for the day and felt joy out of being 'right' about something. But he was wrong, on so many levels.

Now, just because I said that, that doesn't automatically mean I'm an antiantivaxxer or an antivaxer, or anything. I just see a rift, and cults forming around ideas. While in your mind you write about this stuff thinking you're saving lives, so full of yourself you don't notice how many lives are being ruined by social media and this rift. Maybe the juice isn't injected into your arm but it's still affecting your brain and several others as well.

Meanwhile back in reality land I'm at hockey game with 15000 other people and not one of them is dropping dead from vaccines or covid. But if you sit here on the internet trapped inside a bubble and never go outside the world looks nothing like it does when you're out experiencing it, away from all the nonsense. Go to a hockey game and see people cheering for a puck going in the net. Come on the internet and see people cheering for death and destruction. Why doesn't anyone talk about the health issues and mental issues caused by being fed nonsense all day? People have been sitting around obsessing about this shit for months and months and months nonstop. And irony in how loud the voices are, yet claim being suppressed, and how loud they are when claiming they're being suppressed. This whole idea the world is attempting to hide something yet it's everywhere you look! You folks claiming you're censored and there's no free speech yet every day having no issues utilizing your speech to claim being censored and suppressed. Every opportunity to hook yourselves up with a shiny new Hive based tokenized community to get the word out and create the biggest echo chamber in the history of truth or lies, but in the mean time you gotta stick to that classic conspiracy script, play the role of the damsel in distress, and act like the corporate media government monster is about to win the "war for your mind". Well sorry but I'm not giving my mind up that easy. 'They' want it. Those labelled as 'conspiracy types' or whatever want it. NO. Can't have it. Everyone else can have fun taking a side and being manipulated but I'll just sit back and watch the circus.

LOL... Fuck all this nonsense. Now I'm just laughing at myself and everything else. Maybe I am cynical bastard but sure beats being a brainwashed media junkie that can't see the forest for the trees.

Yeah, it's kind of hard to reason with someone who just says, " I downvote anything mentioning downvotes." It's only comply or else, which isn't going to cut it.

I wasn't even thinking of that when I wrote the above, but yes, that's another example. It's like a politician saying "I represent your interests, but if I hear you talking about taxation issues I'm going to raise taxes". lol

Taxes will be raised until morale inproves!

seems reasonable - taxes, like downvotes, serve the community - it follows that obviously joy will not be far behind.

An Almond Joy some might say!