PH wants to fertilize one tree and let the rest die
It is not like that, in fact, they have taken care of renting with the funds of thecommunity HP via dlease to support users within the community and grow the accounts. This is one way to encourage account and Hive growth.
The decision to depend solely on 1 account or 1 leader is what got everyone in this mess
In this I agree with you, I see that it is a mistake, because the most logical thing is to diversify.
Look at my case. If one decides to no longer support my work, I'll be okay, and maybe at some point, someone else will want to support my work. It's all organic. No strings attached.
Because surely you invested, and now with 140k HP you can be more than calm hahaha.
And I plan to do the same in a couple of years when I accumulate about $ 1000 or more. I see the investment here at Hive. And I applaud it because I agree that it is one of the smartest things to do. Just depending on yourself, even if it sounds selfish, but here we are talking about business, and it works this way.
No strings attached. And if I wanted to support a legitimate charity, I have money in my wallet to do so. You should be seeing red flags when an organization calls itself a charity, but the one providing majority support to the beneficiary in the form of votes is also the beneficiary. A real charity does not pay itself. That could be considered a scam, or shady.
And I suppose this explains the point or suspicion of you the stakeholders. And you have a good basis for it without a doubt.
But at the same time it should be given a space for doubt and an opportunity to show that things can be reasonable and work in another way and that they will make Hive grow as they are doing, because all this noise that is being created With this disaster, it only attracts more attention and drives trending topics between both parties involved in this episode.
Please pardon this wall of text. Was in a rush.
No problem, I really appreciate that you are taking the time to talk for a while with the user that you were a long time ago when you were a little fish like me [trying to make you remember those times when you were not influential I guess].
What you do is very positive and helps a lot for the image of Hive and the stakeholders. I wish other people had the objectivity of talking to users for a while in a neutral and objective setting, without having to kill each other, exposing and sharing their points of view, because that is what builds a great community.
It also happens that many users fear talking with those who have power, for fear of being rejected or receiving hostility, and I assure you that on many occasions that happens.
Thank you for your feedback, I consider this talk very important and I hope that other users take it as an example so that they understand that you can exchange ideas without having to be hostile.
And always available to exchange ideas with you, Mr. Whale.
For my part I enjoy it.
I tried my best to press for answers from PH management and was told to either look at someone else who they thought was doing bad things, or I was handed insults. Not one question was answered. So, I started looking, and following the money. They're eating bread and giving members the crumbs. So of course I disagree with what's happening. But I've not been handing out downvotes. I prefer to talk. After talking for many days I've concluded, based on the evidence I've seen and the lack of evidence provided, there's nothing pure about this operation. And I think people who need help are being taken advantage of. Members are basically working to pay debts created by poor management. There are plenty more people from troubled nations earning without coming to this group to take a pay cut. This is the first time in my life I've seen workers demand less pay.
I can testify that I am one of those cases because my income is to pay for services and my daily life. Since I live in Venezuela, and I suppose you must have read about the financial situation and the disaster that ordinary citizens with limited resources trying to overcome. And this is where Hive and large stakeholders have the power to use their influence to help in this situation.
It is a curious and complicated situation, I cannot explain or find logic to many things. There may be many factors involved such as fear of losing income by the community, fear of being labeled a traitor, or maybe other things, I don't know.
What I can say is that it is a case worthy of being analyzed by thinkers and studied by specialists in psychology, because in my opinion there is a lot of that in the whole environment. And I personally am very curious, I suppose you have it too.
I think that only through time is all this going to be clarified, but my biggest concern is that the process of all events lasted, many of us are being harmed in one way or another, and that is a sensitive issue.
What to do to avoid that? Here is a very sensitive question to consider.
No, I meant workers are working to pay the debt of someone else. No their own.
That's what I think is happening. This group preys on people in desperate situations and naivety. I say that only based on observations. The management also plays mind games. Anyone on the outside is deemed dishonest. Several times now I've been told the only reason I earn is because I kissed someone's ass. Or I earn because of connections. Or because I'm rich. The reality is, you see those stupid posts I made? People liked those. I started with nothing. Always spoke my mind. I don't play this game where others are on a pedestal and I'm to believe I'm somehow lesser. You're either eye to eye with me or, there is no other option. I don't talk about life much in my posts but there was a time in my life where my only source of income was finding ways to hustle pocket change from passersby. But somehow, when I come to talk in front of this group, I'm labelled a villain by default. When you're on the outside, it's very easy to detect manipulative ways on the inside. That's why I think it acts like a cult. No cult member knows they're in a cult. Every cult member thinks they're nothing and can't succeed without the cult. And my personal conclusions have nothing to do with why PH gets downvoted. That's just how I feel and I'm not stupid. I had a hunch instantly, then looked for answers, and found them.
And to avoid it, stand up for yourselves. Watch how fast they leave you folks behind when it's no longer profitable for them to use you. They can just as easily earn fair curation reward like the rest of us. They don't deserve more than anyone else. We worked hard on Hive to create a more fair system. PH wants to be unfair, so they get downvoted. Simple.
You know who else used to go around demanding a percentage of business profits in a community? Mafia. Gangsters. And they said that was for a good cause, too. It was for 'protection'. You either pay them or they beat your ass.
But now how you have power is different, because people seek to get your vote and they find everything they do fun, being honest with you that is what happens. I hardly think that that happened to you when you had 200 HP or you weren't recognized in the community, and that is a problem to deal with, because many of the people who are in Hive only look at voting power and making profits, And I'm not saying that this is wrong, but there are also other things that are better, creating bonds, talking with interesting people as we are doing [I'm far from looking for a favor or vote from you, actually I'm very pleased to be able to speak with you about different things and about this problem.
That sucks and I understand how unpleasant that must make you feel. And I'm really sorry that you have to endure going through that. No one should put up with it and no one should have to be labeled a villain, or something similar, that's something that I despise a lot and don't like.
But I believe that I am the living example that not all are equal, maturity is demonstrated with facts just like you are doing and I truly congratulate you for that. You have to be very focused to be able to have an objective conversation with someone and maintain a pleasant atmosphere.
And I grant you the point, I understand perfectly. In that sense, I see that both parties have different points of view. And I am in the middle of both because my income depends on this, and it is a delicate situation for me. But I hope it will not be for long, and it will surely improve even if it is criticized or despised for what I say in these conversations. In this sense I share what you express, I am here for me, for my benefit because it is through my work and content that I earn a living. Otherwise, I was really screwed, and what I can say is that it has been a win to win situation and not a charity because I have made many publications in exchange for being able to pay my bills in a financially destroyed country, and with a personal financial situation disastrous.
Fortunately, I am already coming out of that, diversifying my income and I hope soon not to depend on a single source. So I no longer see myself involved in these dramas, which only bring toxicity and conflicts in my life, causing me to have to participate in something that I don't like! [Speaking of this type of conflict whereby saying something that is not well seen you can end up crucified and goodbye forever to your main source of income]
I appreciate the effort that you have made and that you do to keep things well at Hive, and I understand your views. I wish I wasn't in such a screwed-up situation to be able to better express my views, and you must imagine why, from the financial aspect, because if it weren't for that, I wouldn't mind expressing what I think. But it is not the case because I have to take care of what I do, although I would not be surprised at all if I ended up being labeled a villain or worse, and all simply for being true to what I think and having an opinion.
Sorry, but you made me laugh with this hahaha. And I mean it in a good way because that's how the mafias operate.
And the simple fish like me have to take care of ourselves, it is very sad, but until we grow up to a dolphin or a whale we have no other option.
I apologize. That's where I stopped reading. My experience here was the same, regardless of how much was in the wallet. You've also insulted the integrity of all those who enjoy my work and choose to support it for whatever reason.
And that's it. Conversation over. Not interested in the rest.
Well my intention is not to offend you, but to speak to you from reality. A pity that you interpret it that way. But that is what happens, people approach those who have voting power because of their stake and their interest in obtaining profits, that is the reality and for the most part that is what happens.
If you went and said that to everyone who ever left a comment under my posts, you'd get shouted out of the room. If you really think those people are only there in order to get something out of me, maybe your head is screwed on, but it's backwards.
With that attitude of yours you hold so dear, you will always remain on the bottom. And it's your fault, because that's how your brain works. If all you think one has to do to get somewhere around here is kiss ass, that's why you can't get anywhere.
https://peakd.com/life/@nonameslefttouse/ass-kissing-brownnosers-are-useless
You're saying I must have kissed ass to get ahead. You're saying I want my ass kissed. I hate that shit. I'm not offended. You're just a lost cause. Kiss my ass, you get nothing. Insult me, you get nothing.
Now, take your bad attitude, and use it to get ripped off by PH.
Bye!