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RE: Hivewatcher drama and the death of hive ?

in The City of Neoxian15 days ago (edited)

Hivewatchers is such bullshit. But people want to say that this chain is decentralized, lol. Part of why I am powering down and moving my value to better places. This is supposed to be a free speech platform, shouldn't matter how many words you write in your post.

FUCK ALL THE WHALES

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Hive has been anti speech since beginning in said regard. Obviously the text doesn’t get deleted, but accounts who get rep zeroed out it might as well delete it.

I spoke often about these three topics and was DV’d by a whale and sadly 99% of Hive doesn’t like or care about unpopular topics.

2020 - Anti Government Lockdowns
2021 - Vaccine Skepticism
2023 - Anti USA getting involved in Ukraine war

Heck they even have our community funds to a political cause in 2023 via DHF. The community funds should never have been used to support unrelated projects.

I hear you and it is not right, I think DV is supposed to server as a chain defense mechanism but more then often it is misused and abused to financially penalizing differing opinions or force compliance like in my case here.

I would say maybe blurt got it right dropping the DV function but they also introduce tx fees so that takes away from the magic I would say

Blurt is a joke not a solution. You need DV to regulate spam, it’s just abused by clowns. Maybe the system just doesn’t work. Maybe the set up of the system is always going to be a failed experiment. But one thing is certain, Hive is way beyond Steemit & Blurt. I believe the biggest mistake was how the truth or conspiracy so called community was harassed and crushed with DV’s. I mean if ur gonna be the decentralized blog chain, u can’t have ur top accounts crushing speech. That leads to it being a safe just like the rest platform and wastes the whole point in being decentralized $ censorship resistant.

I enjoy the music posts and market talk, but pushing that community out just showed the top powerful here are probably just milking and circle jerking profit with no real goals if this being something big in future. We will likely continue to underperform and eventually be a penny in a couple or few cycles and growth doesn’t exist & we bleed users. I want this platform to work so bad, but it doesn’t feel like it will at moment.

!PIZZA !ALIVE

Please share those "better places". They sound like somewhere I'd like to be.

I think he is talking about inleo, I tried blurt way better energy but it is also a lot smaller (an older hive fork) I heard about it long ago but never had a look until the good hive vibes got to me! keep up the good work hive we crushing it here ! 😉🤣

Absolutely NOT talking about Inleo. I have already sold all those tokens.

My bad , I think I am mistaking you for someone else 🤣

I get why you would think that, but nope.

Mining and DEFI. I am pretty much getting off social media unless it has to do with FPV drones and people here don't care enough about that for me to stay around.

Well I like your gardening stuff. So I'm following you for that. And you might get me interested in FPV drones. Because it looks quite exciting.

However, my uncle owned a small mine. And going underground scares the shit out of me. So I'm unlikely to join you with that 😂

!BBH

Haha! Well, thanks for the follow. I am all about helping usher people into the FPV world, haha. Anything to spread the addiction, I mean hobby, lol.

Come over to the Blurt Blockchain man...

ever since i've been powering down my £1k hive that i've earn here in my last four years, i've shifted them over to Blurt.

Better community there and earnings too!

I am keenly feeling your departure. My circumstances are ineffable presently. The next three days anything could happen. I may become nomadic, and will need your guidance then. You have demonstrated goodwill and prescience I could not have maintained my elemental presence without, and I cannot explain my anxiety here regarding these things, but there I can.

I am here to serve my Elder friend.

I left the group not because i don't like the people, nor is it because i do not support UB's mission for a free speech group, which is very noble.

I left the group because i do not like to see good people so ignorant as to find flinging racial slurs, even when they don't have any ill intent, because it is funny. I support freedom of speech, i also support free will, but i also have discernment that freedom of speech means freedom to speak on anything and all things including the most base and degenerate of subjects (it's part of "speech")...it does not mean one has the privileges of jus saying whatever they wish whenever without consequences.

i will be setting an IRC channel for as a back up comms.

You can always message me privately on element, or drop me an email.

Here to serve.

Do you want me to do a Yi casting for you?

My abilities have increased!

That is what it has come to, but what is the better place inleo ? lol still pretty reliant on hive and I never had much issues with them but I heard folk got burned by them in the past, 2.0 seems promising so I hope they can get it and actually become independent from hive. This is what many folks with lots of HP do here they push you away , I was a really big Hive supporter at this point I have no faith and I know lots of people dont either they just collect their votes while they can

Inleo's new tokenomics are nothing but a flywheel circle jerk. Not sustainable in my opinion. Not putting another dime into that ecosystem. I paid a year for premium so when that's up, I'll be out of there too.

I'm fairly skeptical but still appreciate the hype and positive energy obviously if it all crumbles then it's for nothing, it's some resemblance of life on chain the rest of hive looking like we died and these are just our ghostly remains

They hype is only from a small handful of people, so honestly I don't see it as hype. I see it as wishful thinking of a few LEO whales that are trying to get everyone to buy into a ponzi scheme, sorry, but that's what all this new shit is, and then at some point you know these big boys are going to want to cash out. I mean their stuff is ALL second layer tokens with no real world value at all other than to just pump imaginary bags.

Inleo is built on Hive's second layer, certainly not a better place. I am all into DEFI on Polygon using WETH and WBTC as collateral to borrow trading funds where I perp trade on Quickswap. Then I am also buying more miners for the farm to earn more DOGE, LTC, and XMR. So those are my better places. Once my powerdowns are done, you probably won't see me around here much anymore.

Damn, didn't you build some hive app or something

I did, nobody cared nor supported the projects, so I'm out! Can't build business on 'atta-boys' and upvotes that are only worth a fraction of a penny. So I am going to be like the rest of em while I am on the way out... Leech the rewards pool and cash out to better assets.

Sad shit bro, sort of drives the points of my post but I wish it wasn't that way

I wish it wasn't either, but is what it is. I am not going to sit around here and just let my stake go to zero either. I worked hard for those little tokens and I am going to cash them out so I can get some kind of value back, even if it's just a tiny amount, for the years of work I have put into this place, to just be told by Starkers of 3Speak that I was 'anti-Hive' and that because he didn't know about my projects that they were basically shit. No, that fucker knew about my projects, I had even gone on his and Dan's fucking podcast one time to talk about it. Fuck that shit. If I was anti-Hive, I would have cashed out and been gone years ago! It's a small club, and we aren't in it.

I can't comment about the project you built, because it isn't in my wheelhouse, but I can comment about the value of free speech and community being vastly greater than that of tokens, or money of any kind.

I urge you to consider those values and accrue them, that cannot be flagged away, taxed, inflated, or stolen, so them that have only money are rendered without power over you. Only as you value money is it able to be used to extort you.