But let's say it differently, did creation happen? If so? Then there is no doubt that there is a creator, what ever that may be. I'm not talking talking about some monkey that build us with a spell, that something cannot be defined so simple. How? That's the path to god and knowledge if you ask me.
It would seem that "creation" as a concept is itself logically incoherent.
For example, (IFF) "nothing" "existed" "before" "GOD(S)" (THEN) every thing that "GOD(S)" "made" must necessarily be made from pieces of "GOD(S)" own self
Imagine a DEMIURGE, all alone in the "vast" "emptiness" of "space".
How can it "create" anything?
The only "material" it has available is itself.
There can be no "EX NIHILO".
Like I said before, I knew this at a very young age and compiled it to a simple formula:
B≠A
B= Man
A= God
Meaning, we didn't create our selves but we were created. Nowadays I would have wrote it like this:
M≠G
All science or study is for me, the discovery of how. Discovery of creation, I have had this discussion before, nobody has been able to disprove me, yet only a few could understand and agree. In fact in all the discussions I've only strengthen my viewpoint and formula.
Too much baboon science and religious intervening with seeing the most simplest of things.
Yes, I know we were created, by what? I'm not entirely sure. That's the part I would love to know. But study has already filled a lot of the unseen puzzle all around us and in us. Maybe one day we will know what created us. The word I do like to use is GOD or CREATOR.
I agree.
SCIENCE = HOW
RELIGION = WHY
HOW = QUANTA
WHY = QUALIA
UNFALSIFIABLE claims can be quite seductive.
I'm 100% in agreement with you on this point.
The word I like to use is NOUMENON.
While technically "correct", I believe it is important to highlight that HUMANS are part of "GOD(S)".
In the same way your BRAIN is not your "self", but they are not technically separable either.
BRAIN =/= SELF
SELF =/= BRAIN
BRAIN is distinguishable from SELF, but it is also integral to SELF.
We see it create before our eyes, yet our logic is wrong and we are blind in many ways. This is why this is monkey planet.
Lets find out what god is first, what his intentions are first, then find out how he/she/it was build. One step at a time, not using a imaginary step 2 to disprove step 1.
When I say god, I dont mean some kind of a monkey who build us just to believe, i just know by cause and effect, we were build. Nothing just poefs like the big poef theory. :)
Energy cannot be "created" or "destroyed", it only changes forms.