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RE: It's 2020 and they still blame sexual harassment on women's clothing

in Hive PH4 years ago (edited)

Salamat po sa comment @themanualbot... (^_^) Uulitin ko po ulit at gusto ko linawin para wala na po talagang argumento? Kasi lumalayo na po yung usapan. Pasensya na kayo kung di nyo ako naiintindihan. Kasi po ang pinunto ko ay ito lang po na sinabi ni Ms. @hiddenblade at nasawsawan ni Mr. @ybanezkim26. Pakibasa po sa ibaba...

Earlier today I was waiting for my computer desk that I bought to be delivered at home. I was wearing this yellow top with no bra because basically, I'm at home.

Looking over at the street, waiting for the delivery guy and to make sure I see him first so he won't have a hard time, mom noticed me and said:

"Are you not gonna wear a bra? You should cover up when receiving deliveries!"

I just frowned and said, "Why would I?"

She didn't say anything after that, but I know what she's trying to say: If I get harassed, it's going to be my fault for not wearing a bra.

Fucked up, right?

Yan lang... Dyan po nagsimula... Wala na po ako ibang argument Kung di yan lamang... Nagtataka nga po ako at bakit napunta as ibang usapan at nag jump na sa ibang point of view? Kaya lalo ako naguluhan sa kanila kung ano gusto nila ipunto? Eh, ang tinutukoy ko ay yan lamang po... Malinaw naman po di ba? Kaya nasambit ko yung tungkol sa 1 Timothy 2:9-10. Pasensya na po sa hindi maayos na usapan... Kahit ako nagulat sa reaction nila? Napagkamalian lang po ako dyan... Nagtataka nga ako at napunta sa baby na naraped and yung history ng filipino, mga taong bundok, etc... Ano yun? Tumalon na sila... Nawala na yung point... Pero ok na po yan... Tigilan na yang walang kwentang usapan na iyan... Mahirap kasi kapag naiipit, ibabaling ang usapan sa ibang direction? Sabi mo nga, yes or no lang naman or kung tama ba o mali.

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Wow! At ako pa ngayon ang nakikisawsaw. Thank you!

Kahit anong pagbabaluktot pa gagawin mo, mali ang punto mo. Hindi ka talaga namin maiintindihan dahil mali-mali ang mga pinupunto mo. Wala na dapat pang argumento kundi ang rape ay rape at ang rapist ang dapat sisihin.

Read all your replies again. You're the one jumping from one issue to another. The argument of @hiddenblade is simple: HARASSMENT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CLOTHING. You injected your religion in the issue which should not be the case because the context is wrong. I have the obligation in my self to speak up to things I deemed right. So, I made it clear in my first reply to your comment.

You injected na proud Filipino ka kaya dapat magtagalog. That's what I understand from your statement. No one's stopping you. Bakit pag nag-English ba di na proud Filipino?

I made my point clear and you resorted to smartshaming. You smartshamed me for pointing out the flaws of your argument.

On @xaydtrips comment, you talked about taga bundok and stuff which is really offensive for those people. We claimed to be more educated and yet they're more civilized than us.

You're saying no offense, but your first comment started all the offenses. @hiddenblade messaged me about it which is why I stood up for her, although she can stand up for herself and she really doesn't need my help. To be clear, she was not asking for help. She's pissed and offended. I am offended too for all the victims out there who can't speak up because of people like you. I always advocate for freedom and fairness that's why it's just right to speak up if you have been wronged.

@themanualbot entered the scene because he himself knows your argument is wrong on all levels. That kind of teaching is the reason why a lot of rapists go unpunished.

Read all the replies of your comment and even on @hiddenblade's post. Evaluate why people reacted that way. Lastly, now I feel you're acting as we or I attacked you. Stop that pa-victim game if you're trying to pull it off. It won't work on me.

At ako pa ngayon ang nakikisawsaw. LOL

Ano ba dapat na term instead of "nasawsawan" hindi "nakisawsaw" po ha, paglilinaw. Pasensya ka na ha @ybanezkim26, iba kasi dating sa akin ng sinabi mo sa English kaya ko naman nasabi na baka pwede magtagalog tayo? Kaya nasabi ko din naman sa comment Proud Filipino ako...

Wag mo masyadong pagkamalian ang usapan at mag overthink. atyung sinasabi mo na "TAGA BUNDOK"? Ano bang term ang gusto mo gamitn para maintindihan instead of "TAGA BUNDOK"? At anong "smartshamed" ang sinasabi mo. Eh wala nga akong ipagmamalaki sa sarili ko... English ko nga barok! Grammar ko nga mali-mali... Ano pa ba gusto nyo ipunto sa pagkatao ko? HIGH SCHOOL lang naman natapos ko! O ano pa? Broken Family ako! Ano pa ba gusto mo malaman at sabihin sa akin?

Ibinaba ko na sarili ko para hindi nyo na ako kailangan laitin pa... At hindi ako nagpapaawa! Sinasabi ko lang yung totoo at kung ano o sino ako. Hindi mo na ako kailangang ipagdukdukan pa...

Kung kayo pala ang may alam at nakakaunawa, bakit nyo pa pinatulan yung comment ko na against sa paniniwala nyo? Hindi ba't kamangmangan yun...

Again, pasensya ka na sa mga nabitiwan kong salita... Paumanhin kung may nasabi akong salita na di angkop sa iyong pangunawa at pandinig... Pasenysa na at di tayo nagkaunawaan... Sana ay hindi naman ito big issue sa ating lahat... Meron lang tayong hindi pagkakaunawaan sa mensahe... Salamat sa Dios, KIM... Ingatan nawa po palagi... (^_^)

Sasabihin ko to in Filipino ha, unang-una ang pag gamit ng wikang Ingles ay hindi nangangahulugang mataas na ang paningin namin sa sarili namin o mayabang na kami. Hindi ibig sabihin na hinihila ka namin pababa. Wala kaming alam sa educational background mo at di rin yan namin tinitingnan o inaatake.

Pangalawa, may mga bagay lang talaga na mas madaling sabihin sa ibang wika. Ano ngayon kung preferred ni @ybanezkim26 ang wikang Ingles? Hindi na agad proud Filipino yun? Kung yun man lang basehan mo, tingnan mo sarili mo.

Isa pa, ang smart shaming ay ang pagpapahiya sa isang tao nang dahil sya ay matalino. Gaya ng sinabi mo sa kanya "Okay na sa akin yan smart boy..." para bang mali maging matalino?

Walang umaatake sa pagkatao mo o sa educational background mo o sa family background mo. Ikaw lang yun.

Thank you @hiddenblade for that enlightening comment about smart shaming. I took offense in the idea that intelligence and educational background was brought to the table when the basis of the discourse should be morality. It doesn't require educational background to realize that rape is wrong because the indigenous people find it disgusting.

You just proved my point. LOL
You're playing the victim card now. Classic. But it won't work on me because you're still defending criminals.

May kalayaan ka mag isip ng gusto mong isipin... God know my point and your poit of view. Sya lang nakakaarok ng puso natin... Wala na ako question about that @ybanezkim26... Nasabi ko na dapat kong sabihn at naipaliwanag dapat kong ipaliwanag. Okay na sa akin yan smart boy...

FYI, it shouldn't be about you. It should be about your arguments. But you brought yourself to the table as if we are attacking you for whatever reason you have.

FYI again, your religion is also my religion, but I was never offended when someone attacked my religion. Why? Because I know religion is just one point of view and not the absolute point of view. You're the one who first brought your religion in all of this, but when your religion is attacked because of its flawed teachings, you ended up crying foul. Have you ever thought of @hiddenblade's feelings when you commented that? No. Because you thought only of yourself and your religion.

FYI for the third time, maybe it's time to evaluate those teachings if those are still applicable today. Maybe it's time to abandon absolutism. The God is know is for the poor and oppressed and those who lacked justice. I'm not sure about you.

It feels as if I'm antagonizing you, but I'm not. I'm just simply giving you a mirror to reflect. I hope this will serve as a reminder to always check our moral compass. Sometimes you are alienating the people you wanted to save from damnation just because of your crooked view on things. The concerning thing is that you're masquerading your views in Bible verses. It doesn't work that way.

Hindi talaga uubra yan kapag matigas ang puso ng isang tao at igigiit ang kanyang sariling unawa... (^_^)

It's like a glass of water, puno na ito. Upang malagyan ng bagong kaalaman, kailangan mo muna isang-tabi ang laman para magkaruon ng bagong kaalaman. (^_^)

Hindi talaga uubra yan kapag matigas ang puso ng isang tao at igigiit ang kanyang sariling unawa... (^_^)

Tama, kaya wala kang maintindihan ni isa sa mga sinasabi namin.

(^^)---(^^)

Read it again and apply it to yourself. It might work if you're the one teaching yourself. LOL

At yung mga sinasabi pa nila ang "walang kwenta". Wala sa ibang direction ang usapan, sadyang di ka lang talaga marunong umintindi. Tapos wow nag comment lang nakisawsaw agad? So ikaw din siguro nakisawsaw ka lang din? Haha.

Maaring nakisawsaw lang ako? Kasi hindi ko naman po ito ARTICLE... Nagcomment lang ako.. Kasi natrigger ako dun sa unang sentence na sinabi ng kanyang magulang sa kanya. (^_^)