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RE: Subconscious Social Engineering - A Concerning Interpretation of Current Events on Hive - HDF 124 Operator Ethics Questioned

in StemSocial4 years ago

To warn users about potential plagiarism we need @cheetah bot and decentralized initiative like @steemflagrewards was. Centralized body like hivewatchers on decentralized blockchain is a joke

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why is @spaminator autodownvoting @mmmmkkkk311 @guiltyparties ?

It is beyond all rational comprehension how this comment could be spam in ANY context.

That's because I'm still running a voting bot on Steem and according to logic, I'm voting on communists lol
Anyways, I will not convert STEEM to HIVE until we clean the mess that we have here:

  • stupid curation curve
  • penalties for posts with low payout

leofinance or sportstalksocial (flat curve, no penalties) shows the way we should go

My friends irl kept their steem power too, I told them the same thing lol i was even insulting them jokingly since they are my friends about being pseudo-communists but how will downvoting them convince them to come to hive? lol

No that's stupid. You can't get on for having a Steem bot. I have to check why, I don't know right now and I don't have access from this computer.

We can get @cheetah back up but it has very significant API costs and some risk. It might be something to put on the table later in the year once more work on various key aspects of the Hive ecosystem is complete.

https://hive.blog/hive-193084/@logic/qkk270

Here's how we can replace HV with something that should not be controversial

Plagiarism: cheetah (can be funded by DHF)

Identity:
Frontends would display a verified user badge, just like it is on Twitter. Every author would voluntarily ask for that. Verification would be processed by blocktrades, they are registered company (not a discord chat), they have a right to do that

Spam/Other : something like steemflagrewards was

There are a lot of issues with everything you've said.

Cheetah can be re-enabled through the DHF but alone it can't catch the offenders and it gives false positives. It's still a machine. Even if we develop her to learn she will never be more than an assistant. I don't want to write an essay here on this but if I get some time I'll put up a post.

Blocktrades is an exchange and a development team. I can tell you right now that they don't have the capacity to sit there verifying Hive users. And even if some company wanted to do it, it's nearly impossible to detect ID scammers on a case by case basis. Detection is only possible while looking at patterns.

The bottom line is any anti-abuse solution should have empathy towards people and treat people irrespective of their origin the same way. This is why HW works, because it must stay to a scope and the process is the same for everyone. The effects of "community pressure" (to ban disliked or unban liked users) have been abolished years ago.

You should get on Openhive Chat or Discord once in a while and talk.

@mmmmkkkk311 do you have the return proposal voted for?

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We need 4 M HP to take down proposal #124, I have only 200K

Hivewatchers won't go down if there's no proposal. Remember that I'm a volunteer.

I have a pre-alpha release of an onchain solution to this spam moderation issue.

https://ecency.com/hive-177956/@phusionphil/subconscious-social-engineering-downvote-pledge