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RE: Is HIVE run by the community or by the next Justin Sun? Witnesses please help clarify?

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Witnesses .... are you enabling bullying on HIVE?

I guess technically yes, I enable bullying.
In the sense that I run software that gathers collections of transactions into blocks, some of which may be downvotes or comments. I don't currently, nor do I plan to censor any transactions on HIVE.

Is it against your rules to use @steembasicincome?

The first rule is that there are no rules. This is a decentralized network made up of individual stakeholders, each with their own personalities, likes and dislikes.

I don't have a "rule" against steembasicincome, but personally see steembasicincome as a ponzi scheme and have flagged it's accounts many times in the past (mostly when I saw automated reports at the top of PALnet trending).

I don't specifically seek out users of the service for negative curation, but I am biased against SBI after seeing years of low effort reward farming by users.

If not, why have you let this down vote bullying continue and why have these accounts not been added to a blacklist?

a) I don't recognise downvotes as bullying.
b) I don't run a blacklist service personally, and I'd never consider blacklisting someone because of their voting habits anyway.

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You say down votes aren't bullying... The dictionary seems to differ. Any way...

So can you please explain to me why my posts/content is being down voted? Is it spam? Is it farming? Last I checked all my content is original... and written by me and produced by me. So if my content is being down voted because of a service I use, yes I would call that bullying. Why not add an upvote/downvote to peoples profiles. That work independent from your HIVE POWER and let's see how things would work then? Then we can vote the people and not their content, and we will all be equal. Like voting for witnesses. Not having our HIVE balance be the determining factor but rather the community?

You say down votes aren't bullying... The dictionary seems to differ.

I'd love to see where in the dictionary it says downvotes are bullying.

So can you please explain to me why my posts/content is being down voted?

Nope, I'm not personally downvoting your posts.

So if my content is being down voted because of a service I use, yes I would call that bullying.

If the service you use only exists to upvote content regardless of quality in exchange for money I'd say it's a little more complicated then just "bullying". They may see what they're doing as a positive service for the community, countering a bad actor (SBI) and not related to your post's specifically at all. I'm guessing, I don't know the people that are downvoting you.

SBI uses the blacklist API by @themarkymark so at least there is some sort of quality screening as apposed the 4 guilty parties in question.

Bully Definition:

"Bullying is the use of force, coercion, or threat, to abuse, aggressively dominate or intimidate. The behavior is often repeated and habitual."

Force/Threat = DOWN VOTE with big HP.
Coercion = Trying to make me not use a service I want.

Dominating/Intimidating = I can't do anything about it as I don't have boat loads full of money nor witness support to help me.

Does that clarify it for you?

The question: "can you please tell me why my posts are being down voted" was rhetorical, as the entire conversation tells you why. I get down voted due to my choices not my content. AKA down voting content with massive HP that is not spam nor plagiarism is CLEARLY ABUSE??? I am starting to think you do not want to see the truth? It could not be more clear that this is blatant abuse of power AKA bullying.

Downvotes are tiny upvotes for everyone else on the platform.

You use upvotes to use the influence you gain by your stake, downvotes are the same exact thing in the opposite direction. Not saying all downvotes are good but in general they allow stake holders to use their influence given to them by their stake to decide where rewards should go.

If they think something is underrewarded then upvote it, overrewarded downvote. Downvotes are not violence by nature, granted many do use them maliciously but they are mostly to balance rewards based on how much influence your stake awards you. Without them, we become whaleshares.

Very well @themarkymark, please tell me why their profile descriptions expressly say that they down vote people that use SBI, so there is no balancing nor even viewing of content they down vote. Why do you seem so eager to protect CLEARLY malicious activity? Not one of my posts have gotten a massive payout so please take 2 seconds of your day and actually look at the facts. Also I know you know these profiles as I followed previous comment trails and I have seen you interact. This is as clearly abuse as it gets.

Why don't you add a blacklist to your API for malicious down voting? You can't decide a post is over rewarded if you didn't even read it.

Please cite one of my posts that are down voted by them which is over rewarded?

Like I said, not all downvotes are malicious nor are all good.

I have no control how people use their downvotes or their upvotes, I can only use my influence to balance as I see fit.

So you can use your influence to fight spam and plagiarism aka malicious content, just not malicious voting, so you care about HIVE just not the community members, got it.

Thanks for taking the time to respond by the way. @ausbitbank