You alright pal? 😅 Feel free to rant with me if it helps a bit.
Anyway, I wouldn't be too affected by these perceived "psychological threats". I find that one of the drawbacks of crypto is that it tends to attract many fringe (aka crazy) elements.
In fact, I'm quite surprised you pay so much attention to the notifications in Peakd. Maybe that's something I need to do more often, but I find that it's not useful enough in the same way phone notifications are - to give me a quick preview.
Just a 2nd thought. All I think we need is the front ends to have a setting where we cannot see blacklisted users.
Users should be able to choose who they want to blacklist.
Let’s put this power in the hands of users when reasonably possible!
I think this is the most reasonable approach to our blurt issue and I will work towards it.
If you have any feedback about this idea I’m happy to hear it 😊
Definitely. The UX can be improved a lot more. This is especially so when you consider that Peakd is already THE BEST amongst all the available frontends here on Hive.
I mean... I have the feedback, lots of people do too, but in the end, only the devs have the power to go about creating/implementing said changes/improvements.
@peakd, got some feedback for you.
Really? Where should I look to see the feedback? Thanks for reaching out!
It's in the comment above, but perhaps I don't make the priority response list, anymore.
Peakd normally responds pretty quick, if you call them.
ahhhh you meant there is feedback for Peakd from me 🤣
Sorry I read it as you were saying Peakd has feedback FOR me...
I will chalk this up to me having delusions of grandeur LOL 😆
Nothing like a little megalomania to go with one's coffee in the mornings.
All day, really.
This comment is awesome lol
This tool exists, but it's global. The frontends are able to prevent a blacklisted account from being displayed, but only across the entire userbase.
Marky has been all but begged by me for that ability to choose who to blacklist, but he (and others) say I can just create my own bank and be just like Moammar Gaddafi... er, I mean lrn 2 code and make my own blacklist that works the way I want. Pharesim once planned on making such blacklists available, but IIRC correctly he changed his mind and didn't do it.
My goal was to make lists that people can subscribe to, but the native functionality was broken for so long, now I just don't want to get involved.
I appreciate you clarifying the matter. I can understand being done with something, especially something so thankless as preventing bad actors at succeeding in their schemes.
Thank you for all the comments. On this post. I am trying to answer these on my phone and it’s not going very well 😅
I’m going to try to get some sleep and respond to your comments tomorrow.
Thanks for all the feedback even if we do not agree on all the details here. Discussing these things with you is usually productive imo; you are passionate about this issue and so am I so I do appreciate the feedback!
I appreciate that you are considering my thoughts. Please do so at the length you find appropriate.
I depleted by VP following your and KillerG's conversation and am still trying to get back to where I can upvote interlocutors, so plz forgive my rude lack of encouragement of your thoughtful comment.
I have a lot of HP now so I go out of my way to upvote comments if people are engaging. It doesn't hurt my feelings if you don't upvote our convos but I do really like it when I get some extra HIVE for chatting 😄
I just think it's good manners to upvote people when I respond to their comments. I feel like my mom is frowning down at me for being rude if I don't.
LOL!
The solution is to mute the user, including their comments and everything else related to the user you muted. If you no longer want to see a user on the network, you mute them, and your problem is solved. A blacklist isn't necessary for this. Modifying the protocol so that the MUTE command includes comments is sufficient.
Muting them still shows the activity.
This is not reasonable IMO because the UX is terrible with muting being the only solution.
We pay for front end development through the DHF. I do not think this is a crazy ask on my part.
It depends what front end you use. Many do make it invisible like hive.blog.
Huh. Is that why when I post an Odysee video, no one on Hive.blog can see my post at all, other than the title? I had people accusing me of farming tokens by posting empty blogs and farming autovotes. I about had a seizure.
If Hive.blog blacklists posts containing Odysee videos, that would explain it.
It looks like PeakD's mute feature works that way too. I am trying to understand the blacklist feature but need to read about it more. Task for a different day!
I think the activity is displayed if you select it and search for it.
But it’s on a front end. We are all using front ends right now!
I would think the goal of front ends, at this stage of the chain, is to improve UX.
Maybe we aren’t there yet? But I think we can get to a point where a ask like this is possible 🤷♂️
Either way, a little boy can dream... 😆
I do not think our current solutions are practical for new users that are normal non crypto people.
Dude, you worry too much. And you probably haven't even seen the Arcade Colony casino.
I bet 200 hot sauce on black and won. But I only got 1.74 Colony, which is about 0.00127706 Hive. The return on investment for that game must be in 3,000 years.
How is me advocating for a better UX experience worrying?
I’m trying to figure out what we need to do to make the platform more friendly so we can onboard people.
I’m trying to isolate things we deal with today that causes issues:
I’m not sure. I would like to figure out what practical things we can do to make HIVE more fun for reasonable and normal people.
I’m working a lot to do this but it makes me look crazy. I think we are in a weird spot where me working hard makes me look crazy might also be a problem 😅
I’m doing great. Lots of stress but I love to work so this has been a lot of fun for me.
It’s like working while talking to people. Kind of cool!
Limit taxation would be my first recommendation. This post is focused on Blurt, because they're spamming you mercilessly. Blurt only exists because Hive allows 100% taxation of peoples' income. Everyone on Blurt I have spoken with is there because they were taxed excessively here.
People don't like losing their money. It feels like someone picked their pocket when they get DV'd here. I have a friend that pays ~$400k/yr in taxes. He doesn't like it, but he likes going to prison less, and having a significant income enough to put up with it. People taxed at 100% of their earning on Hive have no significant income to enable them to mitigate the pain of their money being taken from them.
Reasonable DV's for someone that has done something wrong wouldn't create that anger, and certainly wouldn't inspire a whole other platform to be created. 100% taxation of earnings indefinitely doesn't really leave anyone any choice but to leave. I know hundreds of people that left the platform because of that reason, know of thousands, maybe tens of thousands more that did, and suspect the real number is ~1M.
DV'ing a post that is plagiarism, or self voting, or is discovered to be using a botnet to vote a partner in crime, or themselves, is reasonable, and can be effective in ending the behaviour. However, when these DV's continue indefinitely even after the culprit has quit doing that, that isn't reasonable and drives people from the platform, and makes them very angry, too. This has given Hive a bad smell on the market, because those angry people complain to everyone they can that they have been robbed of all their earnings, and censored, and they're right.
This is very obviously a tool that is poorly controlled, and prone to abuse, that Hive should manage better IMHO. It is the primary, and almost exclusive, reason for the dismal and abysmal user retention Hive has today. It also greatly impedes new onboards, because for 8 years people have been complaining across the cryptosphere about being taxed into penury without relief to the very people that are the primary market for Hive. It's the worst marketing plan I've ever seen, and the best marketing plan I've ever seen is authors happy they're posting on Hive and bragging about how successful they are.
Hive should better manage DV's to encourage the latter, and minimize the former, and that is the most important use of the DHF I can imagine.
I don’t agree with the taxation description so this is a hard one for me to respond to.
I think having a downvote free alternative is great. I would like more FRIENDLY competition with HIVE. I just wish people would try to show how Blurt is great vs try to show how HIVE is bad.
I think we should onboard people with the allure that HIVE is a free to use platform and you can get rewards but they are not guaranteed.
I believe if people will only stay on HIVE if they get rewards, then they will eventually leave anyways.
Well, I have to disagree that people will leave platforms if they don't get rewards. Very few get any financial rewards on X, Meta, Youtube, or etc. They are there because they get to discuss with folks about things they want or need to discuss. Hive enabling people to directly fund the creation of media they prefer is an enormous draw, both to the market for that media and the creators. That potential is what makes Hive so promising. That promise gives people hope.
For many years I refused to hope at all for anything, because I had been so crushed by grief when my hopes and dreams were crushed. I very nearly died. While that hope is Hive's greatest draw, when hope is crushed that is when we suffer. Pain isn't suffering. Expectation of living without pain and then living in pain causes that hope to be crushed, and that causes suffering.
It isn't the lack of rewards that drives people off Hive when they're DV'd. It's the unfairness, the crushed hope that Hive could make a difference when they see that centralized money power prevents free speech on Hive just like it's prevented on X. Dogs will fight to the death over scraps, despite being well fed, if the tidbits are distributed unfairly. So will monkeys.
When a monkey in an acrylic cage next to another monkey gets a bit of cucumber, it's happy to get a reward. When it sees the monkey in the cage next to it hit a button and get a bit of grape, it starts mashing the button in it's cage because it wants that grape. If it gets a bit of cucumber instead of grape it will literally go into a rage and throw the cucumber at the researcher.
It is not pain that causes suffering. It is the crushed hope.
Bingo
Healthy stress is good stress.