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RE: Hive Needs Users - Your Stakeholders Prevent Adoption & Onboarding.

in #hive4 years ago

I have advocated for Hive endlessly across my platforms, to be treated so horribly on this platform by the stakeholders makes me not want to use the platform, and makes me want to stop talking about it. I am pointing to the fact that this is very bad for adoption. And it is.

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One big stakeholder* it may not be great for adoption in your case but in the long run being able to find a good balance of what posts deserve what rewards depending on the content and what the users in question do for it is good. My advice would be to ignore, like you ignore most of the trolls on twitter and try to prove to them that you are an asset for Hive worth rewarding and supporting, either they'll stop over time because they see it themselves or others will counter their downvotes, but not this what you're doing now. You're just going to get more people, like me, to not want to support you in the future just to play victim and adhere to your "i like whatever she tweets cause she cute" followerbase. Not saying that's the majority of your followers and it's not unfounded that women or better looking guys get an advantage on Hive either but we're not your average hivemind that exists on other platforms and are easy to get to follow. We've been through a lot and have seen a lot of different things people do for rewards, attention or the spotlight and most of those times downvotes are the thing that bring someone's true colors to light.

Anyway, I hope you can think about it and reconsider and like many others said in the other post, engage more with the Hivers. I realize Twitter is big and you do okay there but Hive is a completely different ballpark, if you were to truly understand how it works you and many other bigger existing influencers would try a bit harder here.

... if you were to truly understand how it works you and many other bigger existing influencers would try a bit harder here.

Maybe, but ... who needs whom more and thus should try harder? Do the influencers need HIVE or would HIVE need a few more influencers? :)

We don't need these kind of influencers. Influencers are bs in general, you could say they are a centralized shilling service. Rather have strength in numbers advocating for a platform or ecosystem than someone that goes 180 because of downvotes or someone being mean to her.

Influencers are bs in general ...

I am not an 'influencer expert' but I tend to disagree here. A few people who increase the popularity of HIVE can't be something wrong. This community is still unbelievable small and in my opinion urgently needs new users.

Concerning the flags I know that HIVE supporters try to explain again and again that they only serve to fight plagiarism, abuse and the 'redistribution' of the rewards pool. As long as that's the case I am fine with flags (actually, I think the option to flag is essential).
I wouldn't complain if someone flagged some of my posts in case he thinks they were 'overvalued'. However, if a whale selects a certain user to flag every single of his/her posts due to personal animosities without even reading them, then I don't think that helps to improve the platform but only keeps off people from using HIVE.

The downvotes can easily be countered by a group of bigger stakeholders if they think they are overdone or the content/user doesn't deserve them. Sure it takes some time to get the attention of those who may counter them along with not caring about retaliation but it's not difficult. Going full retard because of the downvotes though is just a lose-lose so I'd rather focus on influencers who may not just be out for rewards or attention.

PS! I don't mean to be insensitive to retarded people, it's a reference from one of my favorite movies. :)

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Sure it takes some time to get the attention of those who may counter them along with not caring about retaliation but it's not difficult.

If someone would constantly downvote you or me, maybe (maybe!) some stakeholders started to counter these flags, but if any newbie is affected, most of the time nobody notices/cares about that - and if then he complains loudly in public, he will get the explanation that that's blockchain/HIVE ("Don't whine, it's just the redistribution of the rewards pool, nothing personal!"). Whale flags and comments are never ever meant personal, you know. :-)
And then, when after the frustration he has already left the platform, what do you think he will tell his friends and colleagues about HIVE?

Don't whine, it's just the redistribution of the rewards pool, nothing personal!

If the content isn't just a link drop with a footer template I'm sure others seeing that are going to disagree with the downvoter, and like I said this very rarely happens to newcomers providing quality content - I'd know cause I look for newcomers constantly.

It doesn't matter what a small percentage of frustrated users may tell their friends if the majority enjoy the platform and bring in more. We can't please everyone nor is this utopia but it sure as hell beats anything out there right now, if not for a short while then in the long run.