"I dont generally care what is done with the funds they get paid" and "I care if they arent delivering or working as hard as they should for the pay they receive" is like say "I don't care about rose but I care about pink"
But I rest my case. 👋
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why should you care what they do with funds they receive? it is like if your employer cared how you spend the money you earn working. If you did your job, it is your money to do with it what ever you want.
You don't get it.. I don't care with what they do with the funds they receive, I care if the funds they receive is for what they say in the proposal post.
Let's say, I/someone make a proposal saying, give me 200k per year during 2 years, I will stake all in HBD and after 3 years I will show you a decentralized App, will you approve?
My employer pay me today for the work I've done yesterday if I spend everything in beer, it's not his business. My employer do not give me money for the work I supposedly will make in 2 years from now.
If you say I need 200 HBD per day to pay my devs to make app XYZ why would you stake part of that? It means you don't need 200 per day.
This is not about control! We are free, free today, tomorrow, always! I'm free and will fight for your freedom if needed! This is about transparency and honestly!
Yeah, that is what is posed here as the question. Can we determine they were paid fairly and completed their work fairly.
How do we do that? Gitlab commits are one way. Someone else knows other ways comparing their work to others.
I want to see devs keep each other accountable since the non technical community cannot.
Ok let's be clear :)
No need to dive in gitlab, show me in any SPK proposal where it is written "the funds will be staked on HBD savings."
here is an example. Leo is doing the marketing growth... proposal. Khal needs to pay X amount of $ for sponsored ads (making it up no idea how they are doing it). Or maybe he needs to pay something in some stable coins.
Rune did 4x in the last few months. From what i seen he has a good chunk of rune. Is it ok for him to sell Rune to pay for that and leave HBD or convert it to Hive?
Or should we stop the funding of the proposal because Khal has his own money to spend?
He should do what ever he want with the money as long as he follow what he wrote in the proposal and it was nice if he previously have the idea of stake some, all, whatever HBD on savings say that in the proposal. In my country we call it transparency.
but he payed for what is said in proposal. so if he needs to pay for something with bitcoin, moves the HBD to the exchange, he already has 1 btc of personal funds there, so now he has 1.1 BTC. he pays 0.1 BTC for something from the proposal. than he transfers 0.1 BTC to HBD and back to the account and stakes it. Is that ok?
Or here is a personal situation. i went to help and document the WRC event. it was kinda a last minute thing, i didn't even think about should i get payed. now there is a chance that i will get some HBD for 1000km of fuel and tolls i paid with my own money. is it ok if i stake that HBD?
You are comparing the incomparable, your job is done, is known and measurable, you have nothing to explain and you should do whatever you want with the money.
Buddy, we can keep here for days giving examples, or you questioning and I replying but this is more simple than you think. This is just about transparency and things are transparent or not. All conjectures beyond this are things I don't agree with. For me, freedom is the greatest value, next comes transparency.
you got back to the point of this post. how do we measure are the funds asked ok for the job that it is done.
I see you were mentioning SPK. i followed talks of what it is done. but i must say i have no idea how far is it to be finished and even how much it is done. most of it is way beyond my understanding. and that, from my understanding, was the point of this post. are there people that could say there is a need for some more coding and connecting these 4 things together and everything mentioned in the proposal will actually come together or this is miles away and they did nothing.
Bilprag answered below. I dont think your analogy applies to this case.
Once they get it, its theirs. its on us to make sure they earn it with their work and right now i have no way to determine if some or most do.
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