I would have personally liked to have seen several names on this. At least another was included. Even if all they were getting was a very small amount such as 1-5% for their contributions. It is also understandable that you played a major role on the legal side of things for getting stuff done when it was not appropriate to be carried out in public like tweeting. As such this is more of personal involvement than a group effort showcase.
A couple of other people who slept very little with their dealing with AMAs, making contacts, and other dealings I doubt would stand any chance at getting a proposal passed if they went this route. Hopefully, those that did make regular posts regarding their contributions so the community could reward in kind for their efforts if they choose.
A point I would like to add regarding some comments regarding Twitter. Yes, large business deals in other industries do get a start or even go down on Twitter, Instagram, and other places. They often times play quite a critical role in getting the wheels turning at the very least.
It would have also been nice for the community to have had a better understood some of the roles witnesses played in all of this. So that witness support by the community could have been given if individuals feel it was warranted. Unless the lack of other witnesses named in this post is poting out the lack of involvement.
While it’s understandable many are upset and feel this kind of proposal undermines the community effort overall regarding the past several months. Quite a large amount of the community took part in incentives that rewarded posts and comments for proof of work and involvement. I can only hope to see large stakeholders in the future continue to help reward smaller more individual efforts on these fronts. Along with more community members making an effort to play however a small role they can.
From an accounting standpoint, it would have been nice to have seen a more detailed breakdown in estimated and projected future hours, along with what % of the fees that were saved that went into the amount being asked for in total.
As the up to savings of $300k in listing fee alone seems to be quite low with some of the rumor costs out there just to get on some of those exchanges with the trading pairs we did. Which sometimes do hold more value in the rarity they are issued from a speculative standpoint than the actual cost. So I can understand it being more in a range than a defined set number.
I already voted for this yesterday after having a few conversions with less than thrilled individuals. Along with evaluating this a couple of times myself. While the amount might seem quite steep to some. Cryptocurrency is quite a fast and young growing sector where those with leadership, skills, drive, and contacts demand quite a large price these days. This is understandable for how starved this sector is for manpower, talent, and so on. This amount seems like a decent deal if it gets passed as other blockchains would have paid a lot more for a fraction of what was done by your part.
Like who? The exchange team was myself, Netuoso, Gandalf and BT. Out of that group Gandalf did most of the tech work when needed, I did all negotiations and applications, legal aspects as well as all communication with them. The others advised and helped if needed. So I guess I’m confused who all these other people are that individuals feel should be included? This is simply explaining my own contributions and I did not mention any I didn’t have significant work in.
I handled outside comms, Crim handled inside comms. We didn’t overlap that much so making a proposal for her work seems odd to me, but I feel her work should be highlighted and she’s one of a very small group that made it all happen.
As far as the AMA’s... same people there, while some were asked to be the actual person answering. All questions were crowd sourced answered. And a few of those who did help made posts and were well rewarded.
I don’t know who else would be mentioned in the aspects I brought up in the post, as no one else was involved in what I brought up. We’re more people helping in different aspects? Absolutely... but that doesn’t have anything to do with my proposal.
So while I truly understand the concerns being brought up, I feel people have a real disconnect of what work was done by whom and how many were actually involved. Which is understandable as we sort of ensure it was seen as a “community” effort. This becomes hard then when there is an assumption of what work was done by whom and how many aspects were put into place due to extensive planning, even the twitter response.
I’m not trying to take away from anyone’s efforts and therefore on even mentioned there aspects I took the lead on or managed the majority of work on. There are aspects I was involved with with a “team” that essentially worked as project managers overseeing a launch of project and large group of unorganized individuals.. that’s not mentioned anywhere as that was a team effort.
This proposal is only focused on those contributions that I personally played a major role it, and documenting the time spent.. as well as not posting about it along the way.
I believe stakeholders will continue to reward those in the community who contribute in many ways through the rewards pool, I see no reason that will stop. But also there are some doing more intense work that can’t be rewarded in posting, so we need to find a balance.
That is the name I was looking for.
She seems to be quite undervalued these days for her involvement in things.
I completely agree with that statement and would have somehow liked to showcase it more. But it’s not my place to do so. Some do not want their contributions known. I mentioned Gandalf and I was including an aspect I worked with him on.
While Crim and I work great together and most definitely worked on that group effort I spoke of, we sort of took our separate areas and ran with it. It’s why I make no mention of the internal posts anywhere here, as I had nearly nothing to do with them. I had nothing to do with discord or doing the airdrops whole thing or any of it, so there is no mention. If I were to included something we did together in some way here I would have done so. Only thing is the AMAs which I noted I helped on and not responsible for etc.
I clearly could have improved the way I represented all of it, but through this whole time it’s sort of been said “if people want others to know what they are doing they will say so”.. so I’ve been a bit careful about just being like “this is what everyone is doing”.. even though I want to as I think many aren’t getting credit and some are getting to much.
Decentralization is amazing and difficult all at the same time.
We're encouraging @crimsonclad to write her own proposal.