He took a photo from an individual's blog and assumed that because that individual is of a different ethnicity to himself that it's racism. I can write an essay here about why this mentality is flawed but a basic google search can also answer this question.
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I'm not sure if we are talking about the same thing.
I am referring to this:
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Are you saying that this person is actually also white, but has an asian style image and that it's therefore ok for them to ridicule based on race?
I called him those and clearly all those traits don't apply to his physique. Now if someone calls me Asian with a tan brown skin, I should be offended because it's my right to be offended for someone spitting facts about my Asian heritage and tan brown skin. He's going for the racial slur angle when he has got nothing else and used it to frame like HW did that on their own accord. He lost his case when he made ridwant a tool for his agenda here. He accused me of being part of HW when I just spoke my opinion about the guy. Not everything has to be taken in the context of race. And WTP is a grown man upset about negative emojis.
I'm not sure what motivation you have for highlighting someone's skin colour as you mock them online - it's not a common thing for people to do unless they are using it as a racial slur - hence his words in response.
I would not be speaking about 'race' unless you yourself had brought it up in the initial comments, so from my POV it is you that has made this about race in some way.
If you want to contest him not being all those traits, I wouldn't go down that conversation. The succeeding conversations in HW had nothing to do with that and he nitpicked one line to make a big deal of his narrative against HW. If I'm called an Asian Grown ass man who gets upset of negative emojis, I would contest the negative emojis part because that's the only thing that isn't a fact when I said there.
Again, whatever spins the narrative to make his case, keep enjoying the drama. The guy accused me of being part of HW when I'm just there on the server just like anyone else with a role that allows me to post gif images as a privilege and nothing else. He said he has been observing for days yet still couldn't figure out I'm just like anyone else there.
I'm not enjoying anything in particular here, I have much better things to be doing ;)
I am not contesting what he might be 'racially' defined as in standardised human reality. I personally have no interest or even a belief in 'race' at all, I see humans and before that I actually feel spirit moving in human forms. However, people do love to stir up drama and attack each other based on the imaginary construct of 'race', which you seemed to be doing - so I am just enquiring why, that's all.
You're indulging yourself in the conversation long enough that makes me say otherwise. How he took those facts about his physique and commentary about his attitude towards negative emoji is the sum of my observation. I would admit fault if he does not identify himself as a adult man, caucasian and isn't upset about those negative emojis.
See DM.
I'm talking to my friend on Discord as any rational person would. We are now talking about the Fediverse. I don't want to respond any further to you today like I said as I can see you're not in the state of mind to logically discuss any topic. Just trying to do what's right here.
Hi. Just looking around again and noticed you said this:
... after that member already told you directly they made the decision on their own and that you had in fact embarrassed them with your behavior here today.
I think that's worth pointing out, especially when I see you using the spin doctor angle as an insult, while spinning yourself.
Anyway. Please continue talking and just 'being yourself'. It helps others observing learn about you and your situation a little better.
Hi @nonameslefttouse,
I'm pretty certain that people associated with the @HiveWatchers account leaned pretty heavily on that man you are referring to here.
Not everyone is ready for this level of conflict especially when they are simply here on this social blockchain to earn a little crypto and bring good to their family.
Coercion and the RAW force of an overhanging downvote (Not to mention the feeling that there is a magnifying glass over every move made on this blockchain) would make many people buckle and say anything to get out of the kitchen.
Just because this man expressed himself in this way doesn't mean that the man doesn't have feelings about HOW his situation was handled.
Quite obviously he felt the heat enough to actually post a picture of himself holdingUP an apology sign. That's telling in and of it's self about the amount of pressure he is/was dealing with and why he might (understandably) be saying these things (see bellow for the links to both his apology post and the comment made here on this post).
It is understandable why he would want to back out of any conflict after dealing with everything this individual has recently went through.
I think that your points are void unfortunately this is a typical example of the collateral damage being done every day on this blockchain.
HOW needs to be evolved... It's damaging in more than one way.
We can reform and educate new (and old) users... but this is probably NOT best done by the 3rd party's policing the blockchain.
THIS clearly is NOT their role nor is it something that should fall within the scope of what they day. (referring to @HiveWatchers)
Thank you for hearing me out.
Sincerely,
Comet Ranker@wil.metcalfe
@world-travel-pro just tagging you for your reference. You as well @ura-soul. And why not. @apshamilton I'll tag you here as well since this is also a recent @HiveWatchers incident due to HOW Hive Integrity is being implemented on the blockchain.
For your reference:
https://peakd.com/hive-129496/@ridwant/my-hivewatcher-blacklist-i-apologize-to-the-hive-community
And a recent (and understandable) comment in response to being featured in this post:
https://peakd.com/hive/@ridwant/r6oor4
What that gentleman said in his comment, here, which is also linked in your comment, should be respected. You're insulting his integrity. Please stop.
What I see is an honest man who made a mistake, acknowledged their mistake, and took a mature/professional approach to handling it. It's called personal accountability and you're attempting to disempower, which I cannot respect.
You, twisting this situation into something meant to better suit your own narrative is not something I'm interested in dealing with right now. I've watched you folks talking in circles for long enough.
And with the amount of abuse I've had to put up with ever since meeting this character known as "World Travel Pro", what makes you think I even care? This is all behind me now. I gave that man plenty of opportunities. It's not my job to sit here and babysit. And I'm not even connected with Hive Watchers.
Where I come from, you let two people fight fairly and settle their disputes on their own.
How is your behavior any different than what you view as 'policing'?
You're suspiciously ignoring the massive amount of abuse and threats littered all over the blockchain since this character known as "World Travel Pro" decided to lash out. The only person responsible for that behavior is the individual. That's a choice he made. Clearly the wrong choice. But you're trying to say the man who handled it like a champ did the wrong thing.
Shame.
You tagged urasoul, who for several months now has been part of a group absolutely tormenting the entire community. I came back from a long adventure away from all things online and the first thing I noticed was that group smearing me, for absolutely no reason at all, so I've been keeping a close eye on it ever since. What's coming out of that group is disturbing, demented, and has been getting worse and worse and worse over time, up to and including their latest spectacle.
And I often see you coming along to play a supportive role in that or things similar.
What you're seeing is humanity. The people who are able to find success, handle their business professionally, negotiate obstacles when things go wrong; they don't need a set of blockchain rules in order to maintain their balance on this delicate tightrope known as life. And those others who act shady and look for shortcuts, exploits, and trample over anyone within their vicinity; it doesn't matter who gives them the rules or how those rules are presented. Those people will continue to be themselves as well.
You don't want change, Wil. You want to be able to control these things. It's not meant to be controlled.
In over five years here, Wil, not once did I ever feel like I'm being policed by that group, or anyone for that matter, nor did I ever feel like I needed to act inline with their policies, or any policies. I simply did my own thing, my way, without interference. Not once did I ever feel like anyone has any power over me. Nobody is in charge here. People are in charge of themselves, and that's it. Asking for any more or any less is pointless and doesn't make sense.
You called me here Wil, I heard you out. But I will not be putting up with any more abuse from this group pushing for control.
"Too busy worshipping control in order to be controlled, better. Too busy fighting their reflections."
Oh so you thought me simply acting on my own in a public forum; pointing out some discrepancies, lack of respect for the individual in question, and potential integrity issues you're placing on display was an invitation to focus on some superficial nonsense, then find a way to insult me?
You act like that, and publish it, for all to see; yet I'm the monster?
Please continue. This is fascinating.
You don't get to make that decision for me. I'd rather focus on the entire picture. Not just where you want me to look.
I've seen you throw a lot of folks under the bus so far — who are not involved — for no real reason other than you being upset.
FYI your insults directed at me slide off. I see how you treat others so taking it personally would be a waste of energy. That's just how you are. Okay fine, no problem.
Anything else?
It's true that name calling really doesn't get us closer to actually solving the problems and getting on the same page. I agree... But I can also understand why @world-travel-pro is so upset here.
I, like him, make use of my actual likeness and so that brings things to a more personal level (especially with regards to racial insults in what should be a professional operation.)
Both @world-travel-pro and myself have pictures of our real life persons on this blockchain as we have attempted to build real and lasting connections founded on trust here on the blockchain.
Being picked apart by people who don't use their actual likeness can be a little unnerving especially when those doing so know you for you and the asymmetry is apparent in that we don't really know who you are.
In matters of trust therefore... this can be very upsetting especially when your talking about a body of work that's been benefiting the blockchain for 5 years in duration.
Let's be honest here...
As content creators we are compensated via the tokenomics of the blockchain... That does not, however, mean that the exchange is a valueless one TO THE BLOCKCHAIN.
Hive got to host the content instead of some other Social2.0 (or competing blockchain) thereby driving attention and relevance to the blockchain.
This of course means a whole lot more when we are talking about a REAL flesh and blood person publishing content to Hive.
This should merit extra care in HOW these matters are pursued don't you think?
I'll leave off with this...
@world-travel-pro, I understand WHY your upset in many of your comment and in this post it's self. I would feel much the same way honestly. Here's something that might help as a guide post through this all:
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@nonameslefttouse... I can understand why your not happy with being spoken to (above) in this way... But perhaps a little understanding would go a long way?
I certainly would like to see these matters resolve in a more constructive way than what I have witnessed... but in the end we are dealing with real life human-beings and THAT is exactly why HOW we human matters on the blockchain.
Let's all keep it classy shall we?
Comet Ranker@wil.metcalfe
P.S. I'm saying all of this because I have taken the time to review EVERY SINGLE COMMENT on this post as it was recently targeted by @Comet.Ranker. I'm attempting to be as diplomatic, objective, and constructive as possible here. I hope that you can all appreciate this wide angle view on what is happening in this post.
Cheers! 🙂
Tagging for reference:
@ura-soul @apshamilton