@myothuzar I need to step away for a bit to run some errands. If you interact with other people on my blog I curate this type of content.
See if other people agree with you and I may change my mind. I do not think they will but it is worth a shot. You will make a lot more progress on that front vs trying to attack my character.
I am 1 stakeholder operating within the boundaries of the protocol. If we as a HIVE decide it is the best thing for us to remove downvotes I will have to adjust and I will not have a choice.
I am mailable and will adjust based on what the protocol allows us to do. And....... if other big stakeholders agree with your perspective I will be very open to changing my mind.
I am asking questions and gave opinions because I feel like it is not fair.
I apologize for butting in, but I hope to improve the resolution of your discussion. My understanding from reading Hurt's posts and comments is that he has a cutoff for downvoting posts at a KE of 10. So, if your KE was 10 or below, he wouldn't downvote you if I read and remember correctly.
I understand that holding off for a while on spending your earnings on Hive might be very difficult. But there are people you know that don't have Hive earnings, so such difficulty cannot be unknown to you. I know, and you are observing, that Hurt is a very reasonable person who is prone to compromise for the sake of comity. I bet that if you propose to lower your KE to 10 or below, and ask Hurt to help you achieve that KE by not flagging away rewards while you're building them up, he will at least hear you out.
Rather than discussing whether it's right or wrong to DV you, or for you to eat occasionally, I think if you guys try to help each other, him to help you lower your KE by not DV'ing you while you're HODLing your stake, and you to help him strengthen Hive by lowering your KE to 10 or below, that you could come to agreement and end the flags from him on your account.
I recommend trying. I argue with him all the time and he doesn't get mad at me unless I insult or malign him, which I don't want to do anyway when I'm trying to persuade somebody to a different course of action than they have set on. I hope ya'll can work it out.
Thank you. Now, I could make my ke lower than 10. I powered up my pervious month hive earnings.
Please note that I cannot speak for Hurt, and cannot predict what he will or will not DV, nor what he thinks of anything. He recently informed me I had lost much of his goodwill for me, for reasons I do not understand, but seem to be related to my efforts to help another user reform their stake management to no longer trigger his DV's.
I have found him to be both reasonable and courteous, even magnanimous, in discussions, but I cannot say I well understand his motivations or understanding, and this means my recommendations may be entirely opposite of his interests and could produce completely contradictory results. I can only speak to my understanding of what I have read, while he, and he alone, speaks for himself. I cannot strongly enough recommend talking to him yourself, and considering what I say no more than a recommendation to do that, rather than the basis of a plan.
I hope only to help, but my actual ability to help is very limited, and I think the best thing I can do to help is recommend you understand what he wants and expects, which you can only get from he himself.
You didn't directly answer my question. I do not talk about removing downvote, I talk about downvoting 100 %. I noticed at first, you only downvote 20% on my posts, then suddenly came downvote 100% when you don't like my words.
Because of this https://peakd.com/hive/@myothuzar/re-hurtlocker-20251223t223057459z
This is called an appeal to emotion. It is a clear example of fallacious reasoning.
Just take a step back and think about what you are doing. You are taking personal details from your own life that have nothing to do with HIVE and you are using that information to tug on people's heartstrings.
You want me to do something because you say you are poor, not because it makes logical sense.
The problem is, it does not make logical sense. It is not an interesting argument. The reward pool is paid by everyone that owns HIVE through inflation. It doesn't matter if they have swap.HIVE on Hive Engine, HP, or it is just sitting on Binance. Everyone who owns HIVE pays for the reward pool. What you are doing does not impact me, it impacts literally everyone in the world who owns HIVE.
Every person who owns HIVE (not HP but HIVE) is paying for your food and supporting your lifestyle. That is the reality.
If we do this for people, the logical conclusion to this is HIVE goes to 0.
So if people want me to support you that's fine. I am open to it. But I want someone to tell me they are ok with this being HIVE's mode of operation.
Is HIVE ok with only doing good but not making money? I think we need to do both or everything breaks.
My posts already had low payout, they didn't need downvote to reduce more in my opinion. I read other articles about downvoting. Other people are more interested in downvoting from over-rewarded posts. In other article from over five years ago, there are comments about losing users from steem because of downvoting too.
https://hive.blog/hive-174578/@friendlymoose/downvoting-on-hive-a-sensitive-topic
Downvoting is a sensitive topic. I agree. If we want to remove downvotes from the protocol I am open to that and will adjust.
Your post payouts were still higher than a lot of other people after my original downvote. Then you used an appeal to emotion to try to frame me as a bad person.
You said I hurt you? The reward pool is not anyone's it is everyone's. There is a difference.
I have talked to people about being "overrewarded" no one can tell me what that number is. Is it based on HIVE? Is it based on USD? Is it based on Nara? No one knows, it is totally subjective.
Your KE 14.01. You sell the majority of your HIVE for living expenses based on what you said. I do downvote people with high KE. I think downvoting someone who sells everything and is not interested in being an investor in the ecosystem is legitimate.
I downvote manually. You are not on a list.
I didn't frame you as a bad person, I am just telling you my condition and my feeling. We are different person and we have different lives and different conditions. Something you think that doesn't hurt much is hurting a lot more in other peoples and other lives because we are different persons, we have different feelings and we lives different lives.