Happy Monday!
I have been thinking about HIVE a lot lately. If you look at my other blog posts that is pretty obvious. One thing I am hoping people will accept is I have some key personal characteristics that make me as an individual different than most people who identify with Crypto. I am sensitive, I like building long-term relationships with interesting people, and I am always trying to better myself to learn from my mistakes.
I talk about loving HIVE a lot which is weird for most people in Crypto who have developed thick skin and have trained themselves not to feel. But I am not going to conform to the Crypto norm; I am going to be be myself and when that is hard for other people I do my best to tell them I am sorry.
The main reason I love HIVE is because HIVE to me is not a cryptocurrency; HIVE is only defined as a cryptocurrency due to the lack of a better term. HIVE is an asset with a blockchain where a user communicates with people all over the world.
I do not want to get into the weeds as to why HIVE is an asset vs a security. The concise reason is HIVE clearly fails the Howey Test in my opinion. But that is a different conversation and is not even relevant for how we live our lives on HIVE.
I would like to expand on what I believe HIVE is and why it is so confusing.
If HIVE was one process it would be very obvious. A process has a logical beginning point and a logical end point. Drawing an original picture is a good example. You start with an idea and you end with a final piece of art.
But HIVE is not 1 "thing." HIVE is a lot of "things," to such an extreme it is overwhelming if you try to follow it. This is because HIVE is a conglomeration of nonlinear processes.
Because an ecosystem is a part of HIVE, that forces all processes on HIVE to be nonlinear. Once a process starts, that process is baked into the ecosystem forever. Even if someone tries to turn off that process, the consequences of that action flow through HIVE forever. Even if HIVE tries to rollback the chain, that is then a new process which has other downstream effects outside of that one action. HIVE will feel a bad process forever and will feel a good process forever. We cannot "fix" anything on HIVE. We can only change things or add new things which is inherently risky.
There is no way to change HIVE without having downstream consequences forever. This is not bad in my opinion, just a level of complexity I believe most people do not appreciate.
Usually the point to having a process is to create order. A process should have a logical beginning point and a logical end point. However, when we add a new process to HIVE it makes things more complicated.
This is why when HIVE changes 1 thing or adds something new, there are always unintended consequences. I believe perfect solutions are impossible on HIVE.
I kept this one short and will be pivoting away from emotional posts and will focus on being "productive" in a way I enjoy.
If you want me to expand on any of these ideas please let me know in the comments and I will get back to you a soon as I reasonably can. I am also open to change my mind if you have a good argument for why I am wrong.
Once again, happy Monday!
Cheers,
Hurt - The Potato Dragon on HIVE (rebrand in process) 😉
Well, count me among the people who (still) love Hive.
My perspective is perhaps slightly different from most people's here in that I came in the hopes of finding a replacement for the kind of social blogging that was really popular around 1998 until about the arrival of Facebook and Myspace in the latter half of the '00s more or less destroyed the genre in a flurry of likes and emojis that replaced actual content.
I was never drawn here by the lure of money so much as by the appeal of being able to park my blog in a place where there seemed to be a much higher likelihood that it wouldn't suddenly disappear one day because a "company" ran out of funding and folded up its tents and went home, or hid my content behind a subtle ransomware paywall. Additionally, there was a level of sincere engagement and intelligent courtesy absent from Facebook.
All these years later, I still enjoy the fact that I don't feel nervous about whether or not my post will still be here tomorrow when I log in!
That said, I'm not sure what Hive is. My educated guess is that if you asked 100 people they will probably give you 100 different answers at this point... because we have such a cornucopia of different possibilities around here.
To me, it is still primarily a social blogging venue, but it has also been a place where I could dip my toes in the world of crypto so to speak, as well as the place where I could keep niche blogs that explore my creative endeavors (@alchemystones), as well as — because cats do rule the Internet! — the antics of our cats (@curatorcat). Hive also has the potential to offer a form of crypto commerce, if something like PeakD's version of a marketplace actually gets legs. And I get into a bit of occasional retro gaming, as well... like Hive's "Moon" version of OGame.
As far as I am concerned, crypto — not just Hive — took a bit of a wrong turn somewhere, although it was perhaps inevitable. The original idealism behind "a borderless and trustless alternative payment system" was sadly usurped by good old fashions Wall Street Greed, and now everything — including Hive — seems so dominated by the need to watch number go up. But crypto/blockchain is not exempt from the vagaries of human nature!
Which, of course, tends to become self-fulfillingly counterproductive as people start bailing repeatedly on ever smaller upticks... because crypto becomes a gateway to fiat, rather than an alternative.
Sadly, I don't have the means, or I'd be inclined to make a similar investment in Hive as you recently did.
Thanks for a thoughtful piece, @hurtlocker!
This is an awesome comment. I need some time to really internalize everything you said to give it the response I feel like it deserves. Let me circle back later today if you do not mind.
Cheers! Have a good one!
No worries! Sometimes you just have to walk away and contemplate/process for a while... do it all the time.
In my case, welcome to the world of neurodivergence...
I've been thinking, and well, I'll answer honestly. What initially caught my attention about Hive was that I could receive rewards for what I've always done: playing games, drawing, making up stories, and taking photos. I can showcase all of this on Hive, and sometimes I get votes, sometimes I don't. But it's more than what I do on TikTok, Facebook, and Instagram for free. And that's one of the things I like about Hive. But on the other hand, Hive is a great place because I've been able to learn many things I wouldn't have learned watching TikTok. I've met users who value you and teach you patiently, and they also give me advice on how I can improve. Through Hive, I've been able to improve and learn written English. Sometimes I don't even need a translator to understand what people write, and that's fantastic. Hive has given me more than just rewards, and that's wonderful. It's a good place to spend time and listen to other people's opinions. And I think it's the best place to post about your life, your anecdotes, and your gaming experiences, and if I get rewarded for it, even better. I hope we can continue for many more years on Hive; it's nice to be here. Hive is like my home (sometimes my parents give me my allowance, sometimes they don't; sometimes they give me more than I should and I'm happy, and sometimes they don't give me anything because it's not possible, but I still love them and I'm home—that's what Hive is to me).
This is a beautiful comment. It is literally what HIVE is.
The original intent of crypto and blockchain was to get away from the fiat system and start something without insane government control.
At some point people lost this. At some point people decided crypto should be a source of fiat income.
If crypto becomes a way to make fiat it doesn't work. It is about the idea and the potential to be more free here than anywhere else in the world.
I can tip you 5 HIVE and no one can stop me. Not a bank, not a country, not a military, and not even a downvote. There are so many wonderful things here but people would rather argue about the reward pool.
We need more people like you on HIVE. Real people who care and want HIVE to be successful over the long-term.
Talking is the most powerful thing we do on this chain. The more we talk, the more we comment, the more value there is here.
But they need to be real comments with a purpose. We need to have real conversations. Whether that is self reflection or trying to understand where someone is coming from or whatever it is.
I think if HIVE is your home away from home you figured it out. This is why people should be here. Because they want to be. Regardless what the HIVE price is.
I agree that it's a crypto asset, not a security.
But it's an asset with more uses than any other cryptocurrency.
It offers zero-cost transactions, a significant advantage over other cryptocurrencies.
It allows for the elimination of borders. We can transfer from wallet to wallet simply by having internet access (it doesn't matter where the people are physically located, as long as the sender has internet access and the wallet will complete the transaction). We can send Hive, Swap.hive, or some cryptocurrencies traded in liquidity pools. It can be converted into HP and generate income by voting. It also allows us to communicate. I'm going to say that it has similar characteristics to many blockchains that have a much larger market cap than Hive. There are cryptocurrencies designed for payments or capital movements that break down borders. XLM, XNO. I don't see the point of HBD; the network pays a high cost by paying 15% annual interest. I think it would be more convenient to charge fees for using other stablecoins to add or remove stablecoins from the network, like USDT for example. Inflation doesn't worry me that much. First, because the global crypto market is constantly growing, the majority of people don't own cryptocurrencies and sooner or later they will have to enter the crypto world. We always look The price of Hive in dollars. I think it should be considered that the dollar is also subject to inflation.
Second, I believe that as the world's population grows, the size of the markets will increase.
I think it's more important for the Hive ecosystem to grow. It generates more value.
I'll give you Solana as an example. There are tokens like Jup, Orca, and Meteora. Those tokens have a good market cap. Have any Layer 2 tokens reached the major crypto exchanges in the world?
I don't think Hive's inflation is a problem. I think the problem is that it doesn't attract developments that achieve success in the crypto world, whose tokens end up being listed on major exchanges.
This is an awesome comment. I need time to digest it and I will circle back.
Thanks for stopping by man!
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I've been on this journey for a little bit over eight years now (since the Steemit days, to be precise). I saw Hive being born, so being here from the beginning, I was able to witness its entire evolution.
So many things have happened since then, and all of this (ups and downs) has motivated me to continue being here... Believing in, working with and helping this revolutionary project grow even more.
I couldn't possibly say what this place means to me in just one comment, but you can be sure it means a great deal. This project has the power to change lives (in so many and different ways).
Great post, @hurtlocker.
I appreciate it! After about 2 years I finally decided to power up. Seemed like now was the right time. HIVE has become my home away from home. I want to be on HIVE right now. I enjoy it.
There is a lot of potential on HIVE; it is fact. Best way for me to communicate that is to power up.
Didn't read the post yet, got stuck reading comments, but shame on other curators/stakeholders to note vote this higher with the amount of lengthy and rich engagement it has.
Will read post in the morning
What's interesting is that Hurtlocker is starting this discussion and it's being very well received. It's generating a lot of comments, and that helps shape Hive's culture (the set of unwritten rules).
For me, decentralization isn't just about being able to vote on proposals and control your own wallet keys.
I think the day Hive users, as a society, take on the role of police and judge, the network will be truly decentralized.
The very existence of Hivewatchers indicates that Hive's culture still needs to mature.
Honestly man, if people actually used the platform vs acting like robots I think most of the problems we have would not even be problems.
Like I write posts about what I care about and my feelings and it literally makes people uncomfortable because it is so uncommon here. I upvote comments when people engage with me which is an incentive to engage with me; a clear win win!
If you told a retired rich person they could come here and just buy HIVE and use it to grow a following quickly, they would be all over this thing and they would not care about the money.
I believe that without the exchange of opinions, Hive wouldn't truly be a social network. Everything would be limited to making a post and just waiting for votes.
With this post, you managed to get many people involved in the discussion. For me, that's more important than the content of the main post itself. We don't all think the same way about every topic; the exchange of opinions is what truly gives life to Hive.
I can only agree with this. I want to say more but it is so on point I just want it to age like a fine wine 😆
It literally "buys" attention, now whether u use it well or not is up to others to decide as well. Like we've had whales like @theycallmedan who've used their stake really, really well. Then we've had whales like @transisto/@newsflash who've just been general assholes and they didn't get as much out of it both in terms of attention and returns because no one cared about them in the end, stake or not, when they didn't use it properly.
I also dislike people who judge too much when "influential users" get a lot of comments saying "they're just commenting for the sake of an upvote", like yeah, that's fine, that's literally the way hive power is supposed to work. Doesn't mean everyone is just fishing for votes or that the comments are less valuable. There's plenty of engagement on literal new users as well even though they have no votes to give and as mentioned in the previous comment, there's minnows with way more engagement than whales at times, attention can work in many different ways but if you don't curate your comments just to not get "the wrong crowd that's only there for the upvotes" you're not really using hive power well. You can of course choose not to and that's fine, or you can just curate the ones you feel are good and ignore the ones u feel are automated/disingenuous/etc.
Yes it is disappointing but not much I can do about it.
I am done with L2 stuff now and if I do not get upvotes because I do not own L2 tokens it is what it is.
Hive is an interesting place to be ❤️...ever since I joined (8 years ago) i never looked back on other social media account. It becomes a part of life and a great platform for crypto beginner. I was not into crypto, untill i discovered this. It helped me creating a crypto portfolio...I joined it as just another social media platform (this is what conveyed to me) and stayed till now. Kinda another home🥰
HIVE is my home away from home; I came to terms with that fairly recently. There are a lot of moving pieces that make it my favorite hobby.
Even if the price does not do what some people want, HIVE works and it has potential.
the current phase with hive prices is not new...i have seen many such tides, and i am sure, it has potential to grow big and bold
It has that potential. That is a fact.
The question is, how long will it take people to realize it? Will people ever realize it? I wish I had the answer... Then we could all buy lambos 🤣
What drew me first to Steemit, and then to the Hive fork after the Justin Sun mess, was the idea of a place where what I write is much more censorship-resistant than it was on sites like Facebook. I never thought of it as a token to get rich quick. I want the promised longevity of a blockchain, not a flash-in-the-pan pump-and-dump shitcoin. I think Hive is worth focusing on the long term plan.
I think of HIVE as the cryptocurrency and Hive the ecosystem that has all the dApps and the social side to it.
I know it is a but clichéd but I stay on Hive for the social aspect. I don't stay on HIVE as a cryptocurrency, as an investment it really is rank rotten. There are far too many things going on that I cannot change and they affect the price. Mind you alot of those people also affect the social side of Hive, in so far as driving people away.
I am an old Scottish fcuker who loves learning, I even have a Masters in Knowledge Management and worked/visited 69 countries and you cannot stop learning from different people and cultures.
Something great people should strive to do!
Interesting post and with respect to Hive and the changes or actions .. as we say in Scotland "He that will to Cupar maun to Cupar."
You've been to 69 different countries. Each with its own culture.
Hive is a social network; it will have the same problems as any society. But it also has its own developing culture.
We don't all think the same way about everything.
Tribes also have their own cultures; some certainly accept behaviors that other tribes don't.
That is why I am here. I want to make money yes but it's not just for the gains. It is also for the social aspect. I comment and that is actual words. But we also can communicate through upvotes, downvotes, delegations, etc. It is all very interesting to the point it is almost bizarre.
I think as an investment people just think about HIVE in a weird way. As a crypto where people try to time tops and bottoms it is just too unpredictable. Splinterlands is a great example of how you can make a lot of money with HIVE though. Build something successful on HIVE and leverage a big stake to promote your game and retain users. Not everyone can/will be successful trying and most businesses fail anyways (sorry if this comes off as a bummer lol).
First time I have seen this phrase. I think we could use more of this attitude around here.
I love learning too by the way. It is a big factor in why I like building relationships with interesting people. People from all walks of life can be interesting and can teach you a lot... especially if you speak different languages and come from different cultures!
Enhancing interoperability with other blockchains could amplify those relationships even further, making Hive a seamless hub for cross chain communities📈. Optimistic about a thriving future where Hive leads in fostering open, productive conversations worldwide🎉🌍.
I have to buy food from hive payouts, but you continue to downvote me, and that is seriously hurting me. I knew my writing are not good, but I put a lot of effort on my drawings. For one article, it took over three hours. It is also an honest work. Hive's price are reducing, there is not much I get. With your downvote, it is more worse. Last thing I want to say is I am buying food with hive and you are seriously hurting me and this made me depress and cry.
Will hive price go up by downvoting low payout users because there work are not good enough in your standard?
I think we are going to 5 cents in 2026 no matter what anyone does. We have a lot of people and projects that are dependent on the reward pool to support their projects or lifestyle.
That is not how the reward pool works! When it is used this way we end up having a haircut. Wouldn't be the first time and it won't be the last.
The reward pool was never meant to pay for people's food.
Who told you the reward pool was free money?
It is not free money, if someone had to make effort. If you don't write any, you didn't get anything. There are many people depending on hive to buy food. They are also loyal users and loyal fanbase.
I want to consent to charity as a stakeholder through the DHF (like the majority of stakeholders).
I believe you that we have loyalty driven primarily based on how much people get paid from the reward pool.
That is not loyalty though, that is paying for users.
People will have loyalty (or) interest when they get what they want. There is one comment in your post from other person, hive hive low users now. Is it still good that hive have users ? They should make these users (or) people to get hive price increase? I think they should add ads to attract other investors. Hive have already fanbase (or) users who interested in payout. There are other online apps that add ads to increase their income.
I do not think people realize that is what we signed up for when we onboarded people.
@myothuzar thank you for stopping by but I fundamentally disagree with the idea that because you are poor you must make low quality content and we have to let you farm the reward pool to buy you food. I do not want HIVE paying for charity unless it is through the DHF and we as an ecosystem give consent.
If you need charity please make a DHF proposal.
People from all walks of life can come to HIVE and make good content and become whales themselves one day.
People who are poor do not get a pass on things that everyone else is not allowed to do.
Ignore my writings, my drawings are also low quality in your standard? There are many low quality contents in hive, you are just focusing me, it is like you are bullying me. Moreover, if you don't like my words, you bully more by downvoting 100%. In your standard, my articles are low quality, so I don't have to get anything for my effort and skills. Drawing is difficult, especially digital drawing with using phone only.
If you think I am singling you out you are mistaken. I downvote anyone that does what you do.
Send me links for other accounts that also do what you do and I will downvote them as well.
I will not do, I don't want to hurt others. If you want to downvote others, you do it yourself.
If a downvote hurts people HIVE needs to have a serious talk.
Why even make a downvote button in the first place?
This - that's what makes HIVE very different from other chains. In a way, one's actions are more transparent than ever here (short of obfuscating the trail on purpose).
I'm glad you liked that description 😊.
I would argue there is almost too much transparency 🤣
It's a double edged sword. On one hand, your actions and words have a lot more heft, and on the other... well... so much for "peace and privacy".
https://moreequalanimals.com/posts/How-to-Launch-a-Crypto-Currency-Legally-while-Raising-Funds
https://peakd.com/steem/@joseph/the-history-of-steem-steemit-launch-in-the-words-of-dan-larimer-from-the-early-launch-days
A little more history for you.
You always bring the juicy context! I may start calling you The HIVE Historian or something 😉
Just messing around. Thanks for stopping by my blog man! Hope things are going good on your end!
I wish I had saved more,...
Now there is a dapp for that!
https://dhenz14.github.io/archive/
https://peakd.com/hive-181335/@theycallmedan/ostakbzx
Drag and drop to install.
O nice! Thanks! I will have to check it out!
While there is a ripple effect with HIVE, I like that it has flexibility built into it. Even if we make a mistake, we can change course.
I love how fast the transactions are. It's a great way to be able to move funds quickly compared to banks, wires, etc. The fact that people can create, post and earn is unique and huge. I think Hive has a lot of untapped potential left if we stop looking at the price and just talk about features and benefits.
!BBH
!PIZZA
!ALIVE
!PIMP
HIVE has a phenomenal foundation in terms of apps and users. Some people may not like the DHF, but it is the only reason people like me are even here. I am not going to build a program to do something. I should not need to learn to code to use HIVE. I want apps and tools provided by the ecosystem.
We have everything we need. We need to just stop doing things where the end goal is to make the price go up. It is an inflationary token and the reward pool is setup so people can accumulate vs live off of it.
If someone constantly sells their stake they will be left behind. It happens all the time.
We should do things to create value and let the price do its own thing in my opinion.
Thanks for stopping by! Hope things are going well on your end!
I agree. Worrying about price doesn't help. We need to focus on building, creating and making Hive a place where everyone wants to be regardless of what the price does.
You're welcome! I'm enjoying some much-needed time before Christmas with family, so it's going well! I hope everything is going well for you also!
The only way we have even a slim chance at this is a full and total rebrand. We aren’t just down 97% plus on price , we have bled users since 2021 & especially in 2025. Activity is down massively but nobody’s ever mentioning the big changes needed to even have a chance. It’s pretty obvious hive will be a lot smaller in two years & a lot lower. I say this as someone who loves hive. Frankly an absolute and total rebrand is needed yet our devs & witnesses pretend we are functioning at the best ever. Also we need a plan to unwind HBD, as fake artificial pegs have lost favor and market doesn’t trust algo “Stable coins” All I see is devs at hive fest saying HBD will soon be the biggest stable coin on earth, it’s beyond silly and ridiculous. The hard truth being faced is only way we change this path but most here don’t wanna do anything but pretend we haven’t bled users & activity. Only way to improve things is to be honest. !PIZZA !LADY
Things are going well on my end.
Enjoy your holiday and Merry Christmas!
That's great to hear! You enjoy as well, and Merry Christmas!
I see HIVE as a real asset. Once masses know about it and everyone wanting their share of HIVE it's then the real game begins.. Cheers
I’m optimistic very long term. Short term things could get weird.
One of my goals is to promote getting more users like yourself. People that care and have a longterm vision.
Most of the folks here are for short term gains.. Like post, they earned and cashed out. There need to be some kind of a long term incentive maybe then we see more value to HIVE. Just my 2cents here.. Cheers
Yea. I mean early bitcoin and eth adopters were similar and most cashed out early. I think we are going through our own version of that.
Adding a new incentive to encourage people to stay powered up is a good idea.
E.g. The longer HIVE is powered up the higher curation rewards.
Just an idea 🙂
Yes sounds like a great idea. Atleast some percentage of the rewards should be adjusted in this fashion.. Cheers
We have bled a tube users past years, especially 2025. I love Hive, but pretending the trend is going to randomly change without a major rebrand or major changes is silly. Not to mention HBD keeps being said to be future of stable coins by devs which is just silly. If we want a bright future for Hive, which I do, we need major changes and rebranding to full degree. It’s a bleeding platform both price wise & user base & activity wise.
!PIZZA !LADY
“But it's an asset with more uses than any other cryptocurrency.“
I love Hive, but this isn’t close to true.
!PIZZA !LADY
I’ve invested 40 hours a month into this place since 2020, I love Hive! And there’s potential no doubt, but truth is we need major changes and frankly a full rebrand and addressing of HBD issue to one day grow again.
What asset has more use cases than hive? Asset not a security.
I suppose if you count all the second layer stuff , it is at top of list, but most of these things are ignored and due to refusal to make changes after 4 years of total collapse in users & activity & price, nobody’s using it outside less than 1000 or so accounts regularly. We need a total rebranding to the crypto community, we are a joke to much if it due to projects like Leo making us look bad.
The tribe tokens aren’t cryptos but centralized one point of failure gamification tokens that could run on anything and the fact some functions use the Hive blockchain doesn’t change this. Unfortunately Leo community and there list of scammy so called tokens became the most large promoters of Hive on places like X past few years and it’s made our chain look like a joke. So I stand corrected on the use cases list, but with our bear up & broken reputation in crypto community it doesn’t matter in regards to attracting people. !PIZZA !LADY
we need a full realization that our blockchain has bled activity & users to a ultra degree. But much of community just pretends we haven’t. Once we admit it we can rebrand & make changes. Personally I think even a name change might be in order, we are heading to failure slowly overtime, we aren’t going to randomly grow outta nowhere and we who care about the chain could change things to change this path to nowhere. Things like HBD are promoted by many witnesses & devs are the main reason to join Hive, they make corny claims that the APR is going to remain and people should put funds into HBD to sit and earn, it feels like even devs who make claims like HBD will become the most used stable coin ever , are behind the space by years and ignore the truth that artificial algorithm stacks coins are not in favor and the market choose those with real backing regardless of centralization. I just feel our top devs & witnesses are living I the past when we need a full rebranding and to admit what doesn’t work. !PIZZA !LADY
PS - cool new profile pic 👍
@geneeverett I swear sometimes you make me look like a HIVE bull 🤣
I am glad you stopped by either way 🙂
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I haven't researched the ecosystem much yet; I still have a lot to learn about Hive. For now, it's a social network where I can enjoy watching content without having to skip ads every two seconds like on other sites, which is tedious. I hope to learn more.
You will never run out of things to learn/do here! HIVE always be changing 😄
So, Your idea(blogged it)-hive(process medium)-viewers(the recipient of the idea). Probably, the flow is like this? HIVE will keep your idea for you as its user and will let others know it since it will posted publicly(if you allowed to) to either share your knowledge or entertain others as they view your thing. And also, to operate, gas or something alike is necessary. So probably,this where the hive tokens being part of the system. Now, why the price of the token is getting cheaper? The war on hive isn't enough? Just joking. The users should be less or the token producers just so fast that the demand was already filled up. Well i bet there are so many reasons to these. I just pointed out what I understand.
Hey man! Thanks for stopping by!
I think the price is going down because we are in the heavy mining phase of the chain and a lot of users prefer to try to time the market vs hold it.
Inflation is "high" right now but the inflation rate slowly goes down over time.
You basically mine for HIVE when you post or curate. In the early days of Bitcoin and Ethereum mining, people sold most of it and many people just lived off it. Similar thing is happening to HIVE and it is getting progressively harder to mine/live off of (which is by design because the inflation rate goes down).
The biggest difference between HIVE and BTC is BTC is hard capped but HIVE is inflationary so HIVE will naturally go down in USD terms unless people want to buy more HIVE than we are printing.
Ok. I guess hive is really like paper money if you tell me that way.
Yea…. HIVE is inflationary. It will naturally go down unless people buy it.
Early Bitcoin adopters had no idea if Bitcoin would be worth something but they were excited about the idea Bitcoin represented.
If people are not excited about the idea of HIVE right now, the price will go down.
Indeed it will be headed lower, as activity has been in free fall for years. I love Hive & our small community, but the future is not so bright when looking at the collapse of active accounts and volume. I’ll always love Hive, but pretending we aren’t heading sub nickel next 18 months is silly. Not to mention HBD peg is the last of the artificial stable coin pegs and it needs to be unwound before it breaks next couple years, I wish more people were realists instead of just shouting moon! It’s good to see someone who’s heavily invested over 600K HP actually be realist & honest this thing can easily collapse if we keep bleeding users without adding close to what we loose per year.
!LADY !PIZZA
The accounts are going down because most people are here to make money but the rewards are going down.
HIVE is inflationary. There is no logical reason to assume it will go up unless the existing whales keep buying or we onboard users that are already rich and want to spend money.
Definitely for a portion yes all about rewards decline, but as someone who’s posted daily for 5 years here and spent 40 hours on average minimum a month on Hive I can tell you much was not about rewards but more about DHF waste & abuse, again no doubt a large % was about rewards but many it was the witnesses supporting funding projects who refuse to show data and receipts for funds spent. There is shady biz going on, it doesn’t make sense otherwise why some of the largest accounts keep supporting waste & abuse and ignore the calls to demand simple receipts for what’s being spent. !PIZZA !LADY
Now we really have to find those people that need to use hive.. but i bet they are busy watching dancing girls on tikt*k. Grown up working men.. really..
We don't want people that need HIVE. We want people that want the idea of HIVE to be successful!
Just my opinion right now anyways.
Not sure what this gif is but I need to stop looking at it.... It makes me uncomfortable 🤣
I think i press the wrong gif.lol. But anyways,I hope HIVE can still land users that not only know the platform but also cares it value. :)
"most people in crypto have developed a thick skin"
I think lots of pain is an understatement 🤣
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@myothuzar I need to step away for a bit to run some errands. If you interact with other people on my blog I curate this type of content.
See if other people agree with you and I may change my mind. I do not think they will but it is worth a shot. You will make a lot more progress on that front vs trying to attack my character.
I am 1 stakeholder operating within the boundaries of the protocol. If we as a HIVE decide it is the best thing for us to remove downvotes I will have to adjust and I will not have a choice.
I am mailable and will adjust based on what the protocol allows us to do. And....... if other big stakeholders agree with your perspective I will be very open to changing my mind.
I am asking questions and gave opinions because I feel like it is not fair.
You didn't directly answer my question. I do not talk about removing downvote, I talk about downvoting 100 %. I noticed at first, you only downvote 20% on my posts, then suddenly came downvote 100% when you don't like my words.
Because of this https://peakd.com/hive/@myothuzar/re-hurtlocker-20251223t223057459z
This is called an appeal to emotion. It is a clear example of fallacious reasoning.
Just take a step back and think about what you are doing. You are taking personal details from your own life that have nothing to do with HIVE and you are using that information to tug on people's heartstrings.
You want me to do something because you say you are poor, not because it makes logical sense.
The problem is, it does not make logical sense. It is not an interesting argument. The reward pool is paid by everyone that owns HIVE through inflation. It doesn't matter if they have swap.HIVE on Hive Engine, HP, or it is just sitting on Binance. Everyone who owns HIVE pays for the reward pool. What you are doing does not impact me, it impacts literally everyone in the world who owns HIVE.
Every person who owns HIVE (not HP but HIVE) is paying for your food and supporting your lifestyle. That is the reality.
If we do this for people, the logical conclusion to this is HIVE goes to 0.
So if people want me to support you that's fine. I am open to it. But I want someone to tell me they are ok with this being HIVE's mode of operation.
Is HIVE ok with only doing good but not making money? I think we need to do both or everything breaks.
My posts already had low payout, they didn't need downvote to reduce more in my opinion. I read other articles about downvoting. Other people are more interested in downvoting from over-rewarded posts. In other article from over five years ago, there are comments about losing users from steem because of downvoting too.
https://hive.blog/hive-174578/@friendlymoose/downvoting-on-hive-a-sensitive-topic
Downvoting is a sensitive topic. I agree. If we want to remove downvotes from the protocol I am open to that and will adjust.
Your post payouts were still higher than a lot of other people after my original downvote. Then you used an appeal to emotion to try to frame me as a bad person.
You said I hurt you? The reward pool is not anyone's it is everyone's. There is a difference.
I have talked to people about being "overrewarded" no one can tell me what that number is. Is it based on HIVE? Is it based on USD? Is it based on Nara? No one knows, it is totally subjective.
Your KE 14.01. You sell the majority of your HIVE for living expenses based on what you said. I do downvote people with high KE. I think downvoting someone who sells everything and is not interested in being an investor in the ecosystem is legitimate.
I downvote manually. You are not on a list.
I didn't frame you as a bad person, I am just telling you my condition and my feeling. We are different person and we have different lives and different conditions. Something you think that doesn't hurt much is hurting a lot more in other peoples and other lives because we are different persons, we have different feelings and we lives different lives.
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