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RE: Redesigning the Hive frontend wallets // From confusing noise😤 to clarity 😎

in #hive27 days ago (edited)
  1. Even though i was the one to write the text in the wallet so that people knew what it does I am completely on board the fact that people tune it out UNTIL they actually want to know what it does. So i would be all in for not showing it until they click something to bring up the popup so yes it does clutter the screen unnecessarily.

  2. As @asgarth we were both heavy proponents of a switch away from Hive Power... however our main users are not new users they are long time hive users and we believed they would not like it. Now we have polls and can see... we are glad you are on board with us on moving away from Hive Power. Sadly in most of the internal code all through Hive it is known still as HP but that is not really an unsurmountable issue like HBD because it's not an external token in any way.
    2b. However i think you alluded to this that Staked Hive isn't a ton more intuitive than Hive Power ... specially to a non crypto person. Crypto people will intuitively understand it way better but staking is really just a work used by crypto people and no others in this modern world. So it's not like it's a ton better.... but enough better and plenty of resources that will educate the user about what staking is that I think it's worth the switch. Besides having a popup IF they want to educate themselves is mighty nice in these cases.

  3. I do not think that HBD can be renamed and i think it would cause more problems than it solves. If you can get everywhere else to change HBD we are all in. But we will not simply do it ourselves while every where else remains Hive Backed Dollars. I think HUSD standardizes it to many other crypto tokens and makes a connection more quickly to USD in general ... i do wonder though if it's already taken as many USD tokens have already been taken. I do have an affinity for HBD once you know what it stands for.... because it's litterally backed by the health and strength of HIVE and the great security mechanisms in the blockchains but it's not like any newcomer would know...
    But with that said if you can get a few of the exchanges and a few of the bigger UIs to switch... we're on board.

  4. As for Staked HBD again while you have similar issues with the unfamiliarity with the word staking outside of crypto it would be nice to have consistency with Staked Hive. Savings is a concept widely recognized in countries with a solid banking system. While much of the world is unbanked and many of our users may be in that stage not a lot of them are ones with a lot of the capital. Saving as a verb doesn't mean get money through inflation but it has come to mean in those countries a place where you put money in order to see it increase through an APR (which is often advertised) however in most of those countries is very very small less than 1% ... So I think we're still ok with associating Staking to it and making even renaming it to Staked HBD but you'll win a little and loose a little and i'm not convinced it's a slam dunk.

  5. Overall on the layout. I like it. I really do
    We would not put the charts on the left because that's just not the style of our site with anything else so it wouldn't make sense. And i wouldn't have the charts that large because that puts too much focus on the price of tokens which plays into the obsession over price aspect. Where as the wallet should be a place to see what's in your account and if they're overly obsessed with trends there are literally hundreds of sites for those with that obsession. What we can provide is a great way to consume data about what they have in their wallet which is something only a few sites can do. AND provide them ways to interact with their tokens ... you left out most of those but we have to keep them there ... we can of course focus primarily on Transfer as that's newbie intuitive.

  • 5b. I'm fine with the tabs across the top as opposed to the side ... totally fine with that.
  • 5c. Having a transaction ledger is very common in bank accounts and wallets so we'll stick with having that specially since that's what most hive users go to their wallet to see.And it's very intuitive so that's fine.
  • 5d. You say write "credit card" but your examples say CC ... so i'm a bit confused so just clarify.

.6. Anyway what software did you use to make the mockups? They look nice and i'm impressed by your work. Do you want to continue doing some more? How long did it take you?

.7. I'll see if and when we can implement some of this on peakd.com... always happy to get feedback from the community specially when it comes with thoughtful reasoning and even better actual screenshots.

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  1. Expandable "?" and less text inside it should do it. Important not to blast the senses of anyone seeing the wallet for the first few times.
    Confusion breeds an expectation of future confusion.

  2. People will always go with what theyre used to and not take a second to even consider anyone beyond themselves that might be new. Its a 100% certainty a large chunk of people will say they would like to keep Hive Power. And they would be absolutely wrong.
    2b. Staked Hive placed under the respective Hive token is far more intuitive than Hive Power. Its a massive difference.
    -Firstly because now you have 2 tokens (there actually are only 2 tokens) instead 3 tokens.
    -Secondly because "staking" is a standardized term in the crypto ecosystem. Hive Power is an absolutely meaningless term. The answer to the question: "What is Hive Power?" is "Its staked Hive". So why in the world do we force the question? We just need to give the answer to the question right away put it in its rightful place under the token it is. "HIVE".
    -Thirdly, Hive Power and Voting Power are both existing terms on Hive that are integral to using Hive. When new users are hit with all this terminology it might as well be complete noise.

  3. HBD to HUSD was to showcase maximum clarity in presenting Hive tokens. HUSD does that. People here cling to things they are used to even if the alternative is better in every way so I dont expect this to happen but if it did it would lessen the confusion on what HBD is and have a higher social media potential..

  4. I have never seen a serious Hiver promote HBD and say "I put my HBD in savings!". I do see them say they staked their HBD for 20% APR. Those that might invest will understand staking. They will not understand savings.

  5. Its really not about the design, frontends can do with it what they want. Its just about reducing unnecessary information so the attention is on what matters. Hive and HBD. Those two things are what matters. Everything else is secondary and should be presented as such.
    5c. sure
    5d. I forgot to write Credit Card on the image.

  6. It took me 15 minutes to do the mock up for the page in paint and 10 dollars on Fiverr for the design guy to make it pretty in figma.

What about HBUSD if HUSB isn’t unique enough?

Sure. its the USD/EUR presence in name that matters.

This would be better though the 5 letter does cause complications over the 3 letter. I would vote for that over HBD. I think someone would need to do an extensive research of the impacts of changing token name/ticker-symbol and see what all would need to be done. Then the community could decide if it's worth the squeeze.