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RE: Call to Action - PLEASE DO NOT Support this DHF Proposal

in #hive9 months ago (edited)

Actually yeah, so essentially he'll get some randomers on Hive, proofread their drivel, check for AI or plagiarism, and ensure that they only post about LasseCash and leave. I think it would be more beneficial for LasseCash, if he got some people who were actually interested in sticking around, and then get them involved properly here, and then get them involved in LasseCash of their own free will at a later stage.

Some people assume cryptocurrency is a scam and if @lasseehlers goes around paying random people to create an account and post about his token then of course that's going to look like Hive is a scam.

Absolutely. The last thing Hive needs is a bad reputation. Hive as a whole does need new people, especially ones who can become solid members of the community. We don't need dead accounts, or people forced to come here for 16 HBD.

It's a good shout that you pointed this out, it's a terrible idea when looking at the ramifications of this sort of behavior. Based solely off his rep, I doubt he'll get the proposal funded, but it's good to spread the word when something like this is spotted.

By the look of it all, I doubt they're real people - but if they are I wonder where he's finding them haha - in all seriousness, I'd say it's all him and he is just going to pocket the 20 HBD for the hassle of signing up and writing a post.

People shouldn't be paid to join anyway, the payment should be in making the account and getting involved properly; just by being a normal person here, you can earn more than twenty HBD.

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Of course since @lasseehlers refuses to give any details about how he plans to "onboard" new users all we can do is speculate and hypothesize. If he doesn't want us doing that he can give us simething more definative than what was in his proposal draft post and canon proposal post.

I am skeptical of the full hypothesis I made. Maybe he might find some new Hive users by paying them but I would expect more than half of the "new users" he would "onboard" would be sockpuppet accounts he himself would create. His proposal's budget is stated to be 20 HBD per "new user", 16 HBD to onboard and 4 HBD for his own compensation. If he onboards a "real user" he only gets 4 HBD for that new user. If he creates a sockpuppet account to "onboard" he gets the full 20 HBD. I would also suppose that "16 per new user" is more like the upper amount that he would be willing to pay. He might try to find new users to create an account that will just take something like $8 or $10 to create an account and then he would pocket the difference giving him more than $4 "compensation" for that onboarded user. If he was clever rather than pocketing the difference he could just roll the difference into his scheme and that would allow him to claim, "See? I asked for 1000 HBD to onboard 50 new 'professional bloggers' at 20 HBD each but I got 56 new onboarded users which is more than 50." Thus my McDonalds analogy in my post. Generally the lower you can pay someone the less effort that person will be willing to put into the task they are being paid for.

I am also highly skeptical of @lasseehlers' claim about not knowing that a post about LasseCash could be generated by AI by giving AI details about LasseCash. @lasseehlers vastly overestimates his intelligence but he is not stupid. @lasseehlers is being honest when he states that he checked ChatGPT months ago to see what it had to say about his token. I remember seeing him mention that in one of his video posts at the time and he felt insulted that ChatGPT didn't know about LasseCash.

@lasseehlers is far from tactful when it comes to self-promotion. His preference of promoting LasseCash is sheer brute force. I don't recall the exact words from his video but @lasseehlers said he would "get them" (OpenAI I assume) to know about LasseCash. If he pursued that and tried to find out how to get ChatGPT to "know" about LasseCash then sooner or later @lasseehlers would have found out about prompt engineering. That is why I find his claim of not knowing so dubious.

I could be wrong of course. Maybe @lasseehlers actually paid whoever @majidhussain007 is $16 for a blog post about LasseCash and @majidhussain007 was able to pass off AI generated text as something from a "professional blogger".

If you can get plutonium from Libyan terrorists by giving them an empty bomb casing full of old pinball machine parts then any kind of trade is possible I guess.

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Thanks to you getting my brain speculating more I just realized something else strange:

Why isn't @lasseehlers using the @lassecash account for the proposal?

@lasseehlers has so far made two DHF proposals. His first proposal for 60,000 HBD so he could buy his own LasseCash token to artificially pump the price of LasseCash something something FOMOing duped people would need to create a Hive account "promoting" Hive failed so now this 1000 HBD proposal to "onboard" new users by paying them to post about LasseCash something something "promoting" Hive.

In both of @lasseehlers' proposals the proposal posts are hidden due to his low reputation score and in both proposals it is the @lasseehlers account that would receive the HBD from the Decentralized Hive Fund.

For both proposals he claims that he can use LasseCash to "promote Hive". So why is his private account rather than the LasseCash community account being used? If I were to make a proposal for MemeHive or Hive Images I would be using @memehive or @hivephoto respectively. I wouldn't be using my @holovision account for a proposal to benefit one of my communities.

@lassecash doesn't have a low reputation score so a proposal post by @lassecash wouldn't be hidden. Sending HBD from DHF to @lassecash wouldn't comingle community funds with his private account.

But @lasseehlers hasn't been active with @lassecash since August of 2021.

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Maybe @lasseehlers losing the keys to @lassecash might be a possible explanation but then he would have just made a new alternate account and have made a post about losing the keys. He also doesn't seem to have been very active on @lassecash between when the account was created in 2019 and August 2021.

Seems weird.