how does someone rip something off by asking for what they believe their work is worth?
because thats not what her work is worth.
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how does someone rip something off by asking for what they believe their work is worth?
because thats not what her work is worth.
Repeating a thing does not make it true, @lordbutterfly. I read your entire post a couple of times, so I say emphatically: repetition does not confer truth.
You wish to apply subjective criteria to others about the value of their work, but understand that the value of your assertions can be held up to the same scrutiny:
I have purposely not chosen to attempt to lower the value of your opinion and thus your person to the community by attacking it as harshly as I could. You are operating out of a certain set of beliefs and circumstances and attempting to do good as you understand it. I respect that. I am, however, pointing out to you that you lack the same respect for others who are doing work you are not doing so that we can all share this valuable platform.
Do i really have to answer these? 🤦♂
lol. I just find this funny. What can i say? Thx for not shattering my self-esteem.
No, you didn't have to answer them. They are rhetorical. But since you did, future readers can weigh things out how they wish. The premise that someone asking for what they feel their work is worth and getting it is robbery or a scam or a ripoff is at least questionable. But, like I said: I do respect your position, and your right to express it.
If she asked for $30k or $40k broken out over one (1) years for a part-time or even more if she wanted to go full-time, I would be fine with this.
But $30k for services rendered, no, because lot's of people, including me, played an important part in the exchanges for Hive.
Let me see if I understand:
No. 5 is the part that disturbs me, sir. I can understand 1-4 not going well, and then you feeling disrespected by the powers that be. I can understand if you are saying you believe you personally are being treated unfairly. But just because someone applied for in essence a $30K grant for work already done and got it while you didn't does not mean the whole community has necessarily been robbed unless said work OBJECTIVELY had no value to us -- that would be hard to prove, but, I'm open to it if you can do it.
But if there is value, here's what happened. Person X valued their work at $30K; the Hive fund agreed. That is the kind of thing that takes place every day in grant-making circles to actual volunteers who apply for sustaining grants based on past work. Not everyone applies, and not everyone who applies receives ... $30K is a big example, but it does happen with big funds. That does not mean YOUR work has no value. Thank you for everything you did that got us to where we could have this conversation today. Yet at the same time: just because no one has yet put a dollar sign on the value of your work doesn't mean that we can prove the dollar sign on anyone else's work is invalid.
https://peakd.com/hive/@birdinc/hive-business-development-and-exchange-relations-support
I made a proposal but Justine asked me to take it down so I did. She wanted it to be a team proposal but she didn't want me on the team.
But I realized that I wasn't the right guy for the job because I didn't have many individual relationships with members of the Hive Slack.
https://peakd.com/hive/@birdinc/weekly-hive-exchange-report
Here you can see a chart with all my initial notes.
Again: your work has value, and so does anyone else's that contributed to the excellent work you have linked to. However, that is a bit of a non sequitur to the question of whether anyone on that work should not get $30K. I also have no way of knowing: who asked for what?
The point is getting Hive DAO Funds is more about politics than merit and I was pushed out politically.
But I also left at the same time because I understood this so it's all water under the bridge now.
The same thing happened to me at Steemit actually towards the end when Elizabeth took over and de-prioritized business development.
OKAY -- now we get to something that IS a community problem indeed ... what you are now describing is garden-variety graft. Presuming graft is the sole reason one person got $30K and another didn't, I can totally see your point.
I want Justine to get DAO Funds, she knows every inch of the Steem (now Hive) blockchain and she works very hard. But the way she is proposing it, I do not like; same way she didn't like my initial proposal.
I was moving fast with the exchange work and I can see how I was stepping on toes now and that was not my intention.
If I would have moved slower and not been as decisive in the Hive Slack like 'I'm here to run exchanges' which I can see how now if people saw it that way, or even if I didn't do any work at all, I would probably still be in the Hive Slack and I would still be huge fans of this blockchain.