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You got me... I dont do dev work. Checkmate.
But i can read though.

See here, it says 4 months. I can see that. It says it right there. 20200904_15_02_44GitHub__netuoso_ledgerapphive__Hive_application_for_the_Ledger_Nano_S_X_Crypt.png

And also i can see color. Red color, blue color but green especially. Seeing green is a great talent of mine.

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I see very little green in that specific area.

I mean its fine. You did some work 4 months back and now you want a payed vacation. No problem with that. Bahamas? Hawaii? Just let us know. Post some pics, i hear theres a cool travel community on HIVE. They would love it, im sure.

Oh, and btw, you answered 0 criticism. All youre doing is pulling the "i can code, can you?" card.
Very much shows where we stand.

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So I take it you don't want to verify the code and provide a peer review? I said doing so would likely give you a grasp of it's complexity and I would really like the extra eyes on the code. So would Ledger, a peer review is required.

I can point you in the right direction for some things but the point of this is no one was there to point me in any direction and I coded this entire app solo. I have also contributed to Hive.

Hive, the blockchain that wouldn't exist without me in the first place. Everyone has a lot of talk but no one produces anything. Then when I do produce stuff you claim it's not fast enough. I haven't gone anywhere.

I coded this entire app solo

4 months ago, right? You coded it 4 months ago and 2 of your proposals have been running till 3 days ago. Is that correct?

Hive, the blockchain that wouldn't exist without me in the first place.

This is what i suspected youdd say. Its basically word by word what another person i know likes to say.
Thats basically it. That sentence is why i wrote my last post where i call for a formally organized core dev team led by @blocktrades and funded by the DAO.
You feel entitled and when someone feels entitled they can justify acting in any way they want.

Youve proven that you arent a responsible individual and your github is a reflection of that. Thats why you lost your funding.

Your continual development proposals are fucking ridiculous and i knew how it would end.
Want to develop Atomic swaps? Tell Blocktrades to organize a team or if youre very enthusiastic about that project...

MAKE A PROPOSAL SPECIFICALLY JUST FOR ATOMIC SWAPS!

You act like you are doing work but you keep begging for @blocktrades to be your daddy and handle all your problems?

Why don't you take action to handle the issues you have apparently identified? Why do you just sit around creating drama and constantly whining and bitching about Hive while doing literally nothing to improve the status quo?

I will never understand people that do nothing and complain that others are doing stuff and charging for it.

You act like you are doing work but you keep begging for @blocktrades to be your daddy and handle all your problems?

What work am i pretending to do? Are you suggesting that i have 2 open and funded proposals where i pretend im working but i havent committed almost anything in the last month or so on my Github so my fellow devs that almost never complain are criticizing me? I dont think thats me, could be a mirror youre looking at.

I think im doing fairly well handling my problems. You got defunded, she quit HIVE... and all that with less then 20k HP, getting flagged every post, shit on by your inner circle and with no fat wallet friends.
Self pat on the back LB. Do i take all the credit? No, but i aint getting payed for it so i can take all the credit i want.

But yeah, Blocktrades, i stand by everything i said. Devs need supervisors (obviously) and he is the only one i know of with the knowledge and a big enough wallet to be trusted with distributing the core dev funds that would be provided by the DAO.
I would actually like you to earn from HIVE for your work, but not like this.

I will never understand people that do nothing and complain that others are doing stuff and charging for it.

You were my problem. I had a problem with you getting funded. Youre not funded anymore.
See, you use C++, python, Java to fix a bug, deal with a problem, improve something (every 4 months) and i use my words. You can call it drama, you can call it complaining. I call it:

Youre not funded anymore.

Hive, the blockchain that wouldn't exist without me in the first place.

That's quite bold of you to say, lots of people were involved in the birth of the chain. And the only one who could claim such thing would be blocktrades.

I love how much you look up to @blocktrades. But I bet even he would agree Hive was initially championed and organized by me. And of course give @guiltyparties some credit for organizing the chats and setting them up which allowed discussions to happen.

Credit were credit is due. You organized "newchain" and wrote the initial code that led to the Steem SF fiasco, which kickstarted Hive. But I'm quite certain that Hive would have been created, even without you around. It would have been different and probably a bit later. But who knows. We're here now, so let's focus on the present/future.

While once championed, the DAO will likely end up being the biggest scam on HIVE, especially with the amount of money that is going to be going in there with the next HF. That HIVE should have been burned immediately after the fork, instead it's going to be an overhang for years to come. What happened to acquiring a stake and than working to create value for that stake?! With the DAO there is no incentive to actually create value with your proposal, the incentive is to sell your idea in the very best way possible so that you get your funding. Whether your idea actually brings value to HIVE or not is irrelevant at that point, you got paid.

Thats why a lot of us are trying to raise awareness about what is happening. We just need a critical mass to move them towards improving the DAO.
They wont do it themselves.

Those that benefit most from the current system are the ones we must move to improve it. Thats not easy.

At the very least can @blocktrades verify if taking 4 months off is reasonable? What would be the explanation of this? Is this acceptable or not? I personally have no idea

Of course that's not acceptable, if he needed someone to review his code to proceed, then that should have been part of the proposal, and part of the proposal money should be used to hire a reviewer. His proposal, his responsibility. He can't just sit back and say "oh well, no one reviewed my code, so I'll just sit here doing nothing (but still getting paid)".

If true, then he should be fired. That's my opinion. If you take 4 months off and are paid, you stole from the company you work for. That's what would happen to me in my job. Accountability is needed, if this is acceptable then it means the top witnesses are ok with exploitation of our system. This is the perfect anecdote on how the DAO needs a non-interest party to vet / audit.

Well that's not what I did so I guess it's all good. I have been working and contributing this entire time. I also provide tech support to exchanges supporting Hive.

Great, fantastic. I'm trying my best not to jump to conclusions about you, really I am. I suspect that you are doing some work, but, you know what?

This is your proposal, it is your responsibility to clearly state what you have been doing, to show us your work in public repositories, to post about your work ,etc.

I shouldn't have to put on my detective hat to figure out what you've been up to, if I have to do that, then I'd rather not vote on you.

Perhaps you wax eloquent about your work in the private slack channel, but guess what, I wasn't invited there.

Point taken about the detective work. I have failed to stay socially involved on the chain. That has never really been the part of my life that I have excelled at :/

No one cares about your social skills.

But if you are getting paid for a job, part of it is to report what your production are.

You are getting money from a decentralized project, you must report to everyone that participate of that project.

it is not even about the social part, you don't have to be friends with anyone if you don't want to.
Proposals have to have some kind of check mechanism. everyone that is getting funded should have some kind of reports of what was done this week/this month/this stage... especially for things that are not that obvious.
i know bookkeeping/accounting and i am payed for it, do you think firms that pay care that i know it and did it last quarter? they care am i doing a consistent work, and no one expects of them to know what am i doing.

Also, i am sure that no one would say anything if you made a post "ok i did less work this month as we were doing this, that, and that on the blockchain preparing for the HF"... or what ever you did. If there are people who can confirm it, i am sure that almost no one would have a problem with that.

@neuoso, I want to re-iterate this is not any attack on you personally. That being said, I am concerned that no one is checking on development of promised proposals. If you say a project takes 2 weeks and it's not delivered a normal company would ask why, no one is asking you why. That's the real issue. We want to know if you took 4 months off, if so why?

In our current system we don't award time off for "full time roles". So IMO, if you're paid for a full time role and something happens; i.e. things don't go as planned, you should honor your promise or update your proposal, there is no excuse.

For instance. Let's say you took 4 months off for a valid emergency, let us know and let us decide, don't wait to be caught. Otherwise we assume the worst because we have a system that needs work.

We all want hive to grow. I appreciate the work you have done. But I also want to see Hive sustainable. I think the proposal system shouldn't allow to be gamed by any means.

How could we achieve better transparency here?

Nothing special really happens in Slack other than constant communication and sharing of various nonsense and Reddit links. Mostly a lot of drama. A lot to be expected in a decentralized "workplace".

Well that's not what I did so I guess it's all good

Still waiting for some core blockchain or vessel development from you in the last 4 months. So no work != time off ? I should tell that to my boss and stop coming in every day. You may have done support but sounds like you were grossly overpaid for your time if that's the only thing you did.

Everyone needs a boss, in a decentralized system we could elect an actual auditor. Many of us lack the skills needed to review and value these. But if you're going to be paid as a full time worker, you need to be held accountable. What's holding devs accountable other than being called out. It should be more automated and trusted. That's what hive stakeholders want, if we hope to bring new whales they'll see the abuse and may not invest as heavy if at all. Every Hive user wants more users. We want a better proposal system. The ones being paid by the DAO should understand this is what will bring way more value to hive. This is the biggest weakness of the entire system IMHO