I have been wondering what we have been doing wrong for a while now. We have this great working protocol, an established community, functioning dapps, offer solutions to real world problems, yet we are struggling.
We have this disdain for the wider crypto market for valid reasons. I share that disdain as well. Most of crypto is a lie, bullshit, gambling, nonsense legacy corporate mentality masquerading as WEB3.
But at the same time we see visible growth with many of those frauds.
Why?
We can point towards the psychology of masses, to gambling and greed, to pure hype, industry connections and backroom deals and we wouldnt be wrong. All that being said, all that being understood the fact would still remain that they experience growth and we seemingly do not.
We have had a number of projects on Hive trying to think outside the box but the follow through has been lacking. And the follow through is something those frauds can teach us.
We should not be rejecting everything they do because of who they are. We should embrace what they do that works and reject what is morally black.
We will by default be better but our approach should be the same. So observe what is being done and how and try to adopt these "techniques" if you are a dapp owner, a project leader, a community leader.
To put it more simply:
Do what they do but dont be an asshole about it.
We have been living with this isolationist mentality for years thinking something will happen because it is somehow destined to happen.
The only way something does happen is if we do something about it and that something should be preferably what has been shown to work elsewhere in our industry.
Reject rejection.
I think a lot of the crypto 'community' are just chasing profits rather than looking for radical technology. I think there is potential to market Hive as a place for actual communities that want to move away from centralised platforms that bombard them with ads and restrict what they can do. Of course the earning potential is attractive too and that could appeal to artist, musicians etc who make nothing elsewhere.
The tools for Hive are reasonably mature and it's time to bring in more people. I hope to see some growth this year.
Yes. And we should target those just chasing profits by convincing them that they can make a profit by buying Hive.
Great to see that I am not the only person talking about this. You have far more reach than I do. I used to think that marketing is all we need to succeed. Now I have come to realize that we need 3 things to succeed and thrive in the bull market.
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Maybe vsc will get our rep back up.
After the kneecappening stinc, et al, gave us all those years ago, these 'smart contracts' can't come too soon.
Much of what has been going on is backend, technical stuff.
And that is a hard sell, except to techies.
Yeah, VSC is my big hope for hive as well. You still have to promote it though and make people aware.
You can deliver the tool but what if no one uses it? Right now the only people that have built anything on Hive are those that have been here for years.
It won't take any advertising IF we get our incentives right.
We just need people to forget that stinc, et al, kneecapped us and lots of things have changed since then.
The newbs have no clue what has gone before they got here, and that isn't all bad.
You need advertising otherwise no one hears about Hive at all. You can change incentives but if no one is aware of them its kind of pointless. We need to start doing what others are doing.
Word of mouth is the best advertising and right now the word on the street is that hive sucks because the top takes all they can get and says screw the rest.
It's the same thing they have been saying all along.
Coming up on 8 years of saying it.
It's not as true as it once was, now it takes the first 20 accounts to take half the pool whereas it was much worse in the stincy days.
But, nobody knows that because there are too few of us that see the tech as more important than the reaping of the inflation pool by people that already have centralizing amounts of hive.
https://peakd.com/@ atma.love/reward-pool-rape
I don't know if @diggndeeper.com's post is ai generated, or not, but that is a good dude that has built apps that people are using, cast.garden, vigilante.tv, and I don't know how many more.
Now he is leaving.
Think he will tell his friends to play our game?
Think a flashy wrap on a rally car will mitigate this maltreatment?
Maybe a tv ad?
Some billboards?
No, we have to overcome our rep in the market before we have a chance at succeeding, and that isn't gonna happen.
Barring a tech breakout.
'The whales' like things as they are, or they would change them.
Word of mouth doesnt work when youre stuck in the echochamber and no one is willing to leave it. Not even our biggest social media dapps care to talk about their project outside Hive. There can realistically be no word of mouth from the community.
Youre left with a few that are working to change that and with classic advertising.
Yeah, you may be right, it's hard to interest social folks in an app mostly dominated by the antisocial.
I wish you luck, sir.
And for the record, I wouldn't support the rally car absent the good job you have been doing on the videos.
Racing the car is one and done, those vids will live forever.
Please consider giving them their own account to be loaded up on so folks can find them easily?
Btw, i was checking who liked this post n found out that u also liked ur post. Can v like our own posts?
Kindly don't take it personally, me new here, n i think i read on some post that here it is not allowed to like personal content.
I mean if i too like my own posts is this legal by Hive rules.
Yes it is legal. But just like masturbation, 1-2 times a day max.
Lol. Ok. Thnx but i dont jelq, always considered it bad. So i should refrain from this too.
Of course you can upvote your own posts. If you don´t think your own post is worth an upvote why should someone else?
Just avoid writing 4 shitposts a day and autoupvote them. Quality is better than quantity.
Ok. Thanx for the info
and what about voting all the own comments and those of some masses of owned alt accs ?
Everything is legal. You can vote for yourself just dont vote only yourself. with probably only around 5% of my votes i vote myself.
What up, soon Rally again.
Rally soon, yes. Hopefully that does something because im hoping for ads this time around considering Ill be making a ton of content every day for the rally.
An opportunity to attract those looking for projects promoting itself to the crypto space.
It is a branding effort and it does that job no matter of the other metrics.
These are good points. We need to do some things differently though - like follow through with our claims, which Hive is excellent at :)
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In simple words we need proper smart contracts and tokens. Its been now 8 years since the start of this chain and this tool is not ready yet.
In wider context we need more tools to give content creators and influensers to monetize their audiance ... smart contracts and tokens are just one tool... but when we give the options then projects and users will experiment, build, explore and eventualy something will click ... hive engine has given us a glipmse of what is possible ...
Absolutely. The problem is that many frontends dont care about adding anything that will allow for additional content monetization because its ultimately the stake holders that decide who gets DHF funding so additional monetization wouldnt benefit them in any way. Their web2 presence is basically nonexistant so they dont even have a way to promote it. All while we all know that Hive as is cannot support a content creator economy. Top authors getting paid 500 dollars a month.
Very true. The best time to move towards those things is now or else we will miss more and more opportunities that would have taken us further than we can see or imagine at the moment.
Nice thoughts. I appreciate n think u r 10000% true
Even a blind squirrel finds a nut once in a while.
I know some people who upvote their posts
I don’t think it is a bad thing though even though it seem like something rare here but the major thing is that they also upvote other people
Points to be noted
i believe hive has so much to offer in different ways and earning streams like curation, posting, simply holding and staking hive or hbd, other hive tokens, playing games and earning, commenting, adding liquidity and the list goes on. People can buy/sell actual times or services with Hive and HBD and so on.
At the same time i need and i strongly believe that something must be done regarding the dhf. Actual money, a lot of money are being wasted and there is not an actual "good" filter let's say. Those funds could be used way more efficiently to market hive and to fund good projects that will bring more people. Then there is marketing. you made some attempts with agencies and stuff if i remember correctly and you know way better why things are working as we would hope so, please share a few details regarding that if you wish!
Moreover, we need to retain the users here, these people via word of mouth will bring more and more. In best case scenario you can earn from posting/ commenting around 300$-500$, btw only a few accounts earn that much. That amount and lower than that which is more accurate is not something an American or European, or Australian or even an Asian depending on the country, will try to pursue in comparison to work. It needs tons of effort to be seen, recognised even if you have decent content and we are not that many, imagine if we would. Thus, many don't stay. As i say i came for the money i stayed for the community. Based on my Hive rewards from posting/curating if not working i would be homeless :p
Last but not least and i am guilty as well, as a community we don't do a lot of things together to market hive. sure i may have talked to some friends about it but not actively posting via twitter and social media like only some actually do!