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RE: HOW TO SHUT UP! HIVE is Gaining a Bad Reputation - Official Disagreement in Hive

in #hive3 years ago

I do not necessarily agree with you, calling her a retard is a strong word, I do agree on that part. But her post yesterday was the epitome of stupidity and her accusations on that post are definitely hostile. I do not need to be friendly to someone that is already taken a hostile stance and spewing baseless conspiracy theories.

And you know that what she has done with this post is frowned upon.

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Surely. But we all have a bit of rebel blood in us don't we? (We all made our way to the Hive Blockchain didn't we?) And we all fly our flag in the face of Social2.0 here right? 🏴‍☠️ I'm a super nice guy most of the time... But under the right circumstances and if I care a lot about something and get angry... even I might drop the classy decorum, drop my mitts and make mistakes. Regardless we gotta cut people slack so that others will cut us slack when we need it. We aren't gods and goddess's of perfection here... we are fallible human beings living and learning the best way we can... together! ...and we all deserve some grace. Yes. There's a time to be gruff and tough with people. I know that as well as you do. But with everyone fast is slow and slow is fast... and we gotta acknowledge that! So keeping it classy as a default is always every time the way forward. If we loose the friendly edge here on Hive... That's it. We are no better than anywhere else and other people (from the outside) are going to see this and steer clear. And that will be the end of this endeavor. It sounds simplistic... but how we handle our own does matter.

Of course, as I said calling someone a retard is offensive, and I do not like it as you do. And, of course, we should act friendly to people that are doing honest mistakes and we should cut them some slack. But in my view, her accusations in yesterday's post can not be excused as honest mistakes. She should have done the due diligence to understand the basic concepts of those companies before posting her baseless accusations. If she had understood what those companies do, she would have understood why her accusations were baseless.

How about we call this thinking aloud. I do it all the time here in my home and it gets me in all sorts of trouble. I think there is value in looking where other people are not. Be this true... be it not so true... there's still value in taking a close look at the underpinnings of how people organize themselves. When a small individual throws themselves at a whole group of people you have got to ask why that might be...

Let's all do what we can to defuse the situation and wait for calmer more rational minds to come back into the conversation. I think that we will find more truth if we all commit to doing that.

Perhaps things weren't done in a way that was the best... But why did that happen? There's what we can see... and then there's what we can't and it's just under the surface.

Humans are emotional beings... I don't hold that against anyone. I just try to understand and look deeper.

I'm curious why your having an adverse reaction to her words? Is it because she has attacked something you deeply care about? Tell me more... See! There's always a way to turn something less than positive into something constructive.

Humans are defined by conflict... But we are also measured buy how we resolve our differences and how we build people up and make things better after the fact.

It can be done and it is worth doing.

I am being calm. I am having an adverse reaction because her accusations of hive etc. being owned by companies are not factually true and baseless. I am having an adverse reaction because she is disseminating misinformation. My reaction is not to her issues with @hivewatchers, but the way she uses misinformation to have her own way and then antagonizing people that would call her on it, in her post. I might have given her plight an ear if she had not thrown baseless accusations around. That is not how you make yourself heard, it is how you throw a tantrum.

When she antagonize and insult people's intellect, she should have expected harsh words and her hypocritical behaviour afterwards does not inspire her intentions to be genuine. I hope I made myself clear on this issue.

Fantastic feedback. And I respect the way that you articulated yourself. Thank you for doing that. I can hear the frustration in your words... and I completely understand the reasons why. You and I both feel the same way about Hive. I think what I find interesting though is that this is the first time I have heard anything like this before... but I have to say... Hive will be eventually a wide array of people with all sorts of intent and structure around them. None of this should surprise anyone... and to be honest! Hive is owned by many different interests and many of them we have absolutely no idea about. Baseless or not I still am interested to find out what someone manages to dig up along the way. Aren’t you? 😉

But still... I can completely understand your thoughts about @regnerettee’s resent posts. They weren’t the most positive in sentiment. So yeah. I get it.

I’m still going to do my best to listen to both sides of every discussion and I’m not one to quickly make up my mind. Usually theirs something good that can be learned from even the most negative of circumstances.

Of course, there are many people and organizations that have interests in the hive ecosystem. The reason her accusations are baseless is evident to anyone with basic IT knowledge. Choopa LLC is a hosting company. They provide servers where you, host your website etc. The thing she founded is where proofofbrain.io is hosted, not who owns it. That is what I meant by her not doing her due diligence.

Let's not jump to any conclusions at this point. There's way to much unknown to put a definite finger only anything just yet... unless you have some inside information?

Is it not possible for a company to hold more than one asset and do more than one function?

All threads are worth taking an open minded look at yes?

So let's not jump to any conclusions... otherwise we are doing the same thing that your accusing @regenerette of.

What I meant earlier was we should all take a giant step back, a deep breath, cut everyone some slack, and wait for calmer emotions to establish themselves... and I wasn't applying that to anyone specifically. You pickin up what I'm putting down? 😉